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  1. Origen

    Why did Athanasius and Melito of Sardis say that Esther doesn’t belong in the canon of scripture?

    You comment is blatantly false. Neither Athanasius or Melito claimed that Esther was apocryphal or an invention of heretics. Also the title of your thread also contains false information. Melito never said Esther does not belong in the canon. We have no idea why Esther is missing from his list.
  2. Origen

    Pardes Concepts for Gentiles

    Yes he did very clearly. "you are all sons of God" "There is neither Jew nor Greek" "you are all are one in Christ Jesus" "you are Abraham’s offspring"
  3. Origen

    Pardes Concepts for Gentiles

    None of that changes the fact of what Paul clearly stated and what it means for your view. "But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith." (Gal 3:25-26) "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor...
  4. Origen

    Pardes Concepts for Gentiles

    He claims to know so much about Paul's thinking yet conveniently overlooks anything which refuted his view. "But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith." (Gal 3:25-26) "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is...
  5. Origen

    New member

    Hello and welcome
  6. Origen

    What was it historically that set Catholics down the path of believing Mary stayed a virgin her whole life?

    What good would it do anyway? I doubt it would change anything at all.
  7. Origen

    Clearing the Rubble Heap Between Jew and Gentile

    GREAT POINT @Lämmchen What's that you say Paul? "Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham." (Gal. 3:7) "But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. (Gal 3:25-26) "There is neither Jew nor...
  8. Origen

    Does Isaiah 7:14 prophesy a virgin birth?

    In its original context Oholah is Samaria (nothern kingdom), and Oholibah is Jerusalem (southern kindgom). Thus the two daughters represented the period of the divided kingdoms. Both Oholah and Oholibah are derived from the Hebrew verb אהל "to pitch tent" (the noun form is אֹהֶל = tent)...
  9. Origen

    Does Isaiah 7:14 prophesy a virgin birth?

    Nothing vulgar about it. The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother. They played the whore in Egypt; they played the whore in their youth; there their breasts were pressed and their virgin bosoms handled. Oholah was the name of the elder and...
  10. Origen

    Advanced Disciple

    Could you repeat that OITW? :rolleyes:
  11. Origen

    Advanced Disciple

    What did you say?
  12. Origen

    Advanced Disciple

    Sound a lot like
  13. Origen

    Hello

    Hello and welcome
  14. Origen

    Why does the KJV talk about a cockatrice?

    a poisonous snake
  15. Origen

    What do you think about this Bible that says Daniel 8 and 11 prophesy about Maccabees?

    No doubt. “So they tore down the altar, and stored the stones in a convenient place on the temple hill until there should come a prophet to tell what to do with them.” (1 Maccabees 4:46). “Thus there was great distress in Israel, such as had not been since the time that prophets ceased to...
  16. Origen

    What do you think about this Bible that says Daniel 8 and 11 prophesy about Maccabees?

    Again I made it. “So they tore down the altar, and stored the stones in a convenient place on the temple hill until there should come a prophet to tell what to do with them.” (1 Maccabees 4:46). “Thus there was great distress in Israel, such as had not been since the time that prophets ceased...
  17. Origen

    What do you think about this Bible that says Daniel 8 and 11 prophesy about Maccabees?

    I made it. “So they tore down the altar, and stored the stones in a convenient place on the temple hill until there should come a prophet to tell what to do with them.” (1 Maccabees 4:46). “Thus there was great distress in Israel, such as had not been since the time that prophets ceased to...
  18. Origen

    What do you think about this Bible that says Daniel 8 and 11 prophesy about Maccabees?

    Another exaggerated and misleading comment made by you. Neither Athananius nor I said anything like that. They had their view and Athananius had his. No one condemned Athananius for his view, not Rome, Hippo or Carthage.
  19. Origen

    What do you think about this Bible that says Daniel 8 and 11 prophesy about Maccabees?

    No I don't. It could not be more clear. The author meant what he said. “So they tore down the altar, and stored the stones in a convenient place on the temple hill until there should come a prophet to tell what to do with them.” (1 Maccabees 4:46). “Thus there was great distress in Israel...
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