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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    I am not ignoring the rest of your post, I just have time for only a quick response and this was easy to respond to: That is why I created it.
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    What I quoted upthread from you wasn't (personal malice or attack), most OTHER posts between us are at least a bit strained. Let's take just this little bit above. I have no way to know your intent, but you state " then entirely ignored every single word of it". This is simply not true. So I...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    Is that what you REALLY want? I ask because the reasons are based on a paedobaptism presupposed world view. If you really want the discussion limited to simply agreeing with the ground rules that make that the only viable conclusion, then I will oblige and leave you to it. Any discussion of...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    :cry: :( Well, I guess I pretty well bungled that up. Apologies to all.
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    deleted. Sorry, Josiah. I wanted to present an apology as public as the false accusation. I need to read more carefully (an explanation, not an excuse ... I am without excuse except to say mea culpa.)
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    The church hidden and visible

    If course in one sense it is neither "hidden" nor "invisible" ... Galatians 5:13-26 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    No argument from me on what God can do ... anything but be untrue to his nature. No argument from me in the case of certain specific individuals that God clearly placed his stamp of ownership on them before birth. Samson being a Nazarite before birth as one clear example. John the Baptist...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    I quoted Ephesians 2:8-9 [NIV] For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. Rather than waste time, perhaps we could begin by having you provide an exegesis of this verse. It seems to...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    Just for the record, repentence of the individual, baptism of the individual and forgiveness of the individual are all linked on the RESPONSE side of the sotierology equation and none of them are on the CAUSE side of the equation. Thus none are a prerequisite for any of the others. All three...
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    I read through some of it. I was a bit disappointed by the lack of Scripture references in many of the points of the Small and Large Catechism. The Heidelberg Chatechism and the Westminster Confession of Faith are both chock full of scripture reference that you can look up for yourself to see...
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    Perhaps, but I think a case can be made that both Calvinists and synergists are Christian and that sort of "biting and devouring" of fellow Christians is contra-Biblical. To preserve it in the name of not bowing to 'political correctness' is a policy whose wisdom you will need to take up with...
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    True, but in 1689 the Pope was acting like a Jerk :) I was referring to current statements of beliefs (latest printings). I think some Baptists probably objected to bring burnt at the stake. (As I suspect some Catholics objected to whatever the accepted method of killing Catholic heretics in...
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    Five Reasons Why Babies Should be Baptized...

    That's the way Reformed Baptists see the 'problem'. We do see baptism, repentance and forgiveness of sins all tied together at the cross of Christ and the heart of the saved (God's sheep).
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    I know. The Statement from the LCMS explained it. What I find most unique in the Lutheran Statement of Faith is that I don't remember ever seeing another Statement of Faith by any denomination that explicitly attacked the beliefs of other Christians in their statement of what they believe. The...
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    Ironically, that was a rhetorical question, but so do Reformed Baptists. The issue I (and from a spectator's view of conversations, others as well) was having was it was impossible to connect the dots on what Lutherans believe from the individual posts. I sought out and found a more...
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    Being Christian

    Considering the producer has built his career on sensationalist hatchet jobs, I suspect the veracity of the source. Why do Norwegian Maximum Security Guards sing American pop tunes in English? You are asking me to make value judgements based on the equivalent of a photograph of 'Bigfoot'. I...
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    Confusion over Lutheran teaching on Salvation ... they come by it honestly

    That is probably a VERY good position for a Catholic. :) There are those who argue that Calvinism encompasses more than sotierology, but unless you are speaking of the man John Calvin or the denomination that bears the name Calvinist, in common parlance Calvanism and Arminianism refer almost...
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