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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    It doesnt have to say that. Its a common given that Christ died specifically for Gods Elect, or Sheep. Who does Jesus specifically say He died for here Jn 10:11,15 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Everyone of those verses is limited to all of Gods Elect, from amongst the jews and gentiles.
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    Are we now saved, or now called?

    Gods people are saved then called 2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, He saves them first and makes them Holy by the Spirits...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    The World Christ died for has been saved, that was the purpose for His Death. Did He fail ? I say no Jn 3:16-17 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Rom 8:33 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Paul here means non imputation as in Rom 4:7-8 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute or sin or...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Believeth on Him that Justifies the Ungodly ! Rom 4:5 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. The fact of the matter is this, ones believing [active] is the fruit of God's Justifying. Lets look at Acts 13:38-39...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    More on Justification Rom 8:30 Rom 8:30 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Those here in this context that God calls, its an effectual call, and all those thus called are...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Okay !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave Depends on what you mean. Paul isnt the only one God gave suffering to. And what do you mean avail ? After your response, I will be moving away from discussing rewards, would prefer to stay tuned in on Justification of the ungodly.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    All who have been given to believe on Christ, have also been given to suffer on His behalf to some degree or other Phil 1:29 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave Im sure His reward is wth Him since He is our reward. All the righeous shall shine in the Kingdom friend: Matt 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Not sure I am in agreement with this. I see rewards...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave I prefer the kjv which reads: After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. I believe God is saying He Himself is Abrahams Shield and Great reward, and I believe this applies to all...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Hi Dave, I appreciate your posts as well. I see the Heb 11:35 verse referring to the resurrection of the Just in that last say which of course is a much better resurrection than that of the unjust. Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Hi Dave, I agree with the majority of what you saying here. Yet I pause whenever I see that something of eternal value, like reward can be said to be merited by the saved. What about the saved incestous brother in 1 Cor 5, will he not receive the crown of life James 1:12 or the crown of...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Christ Resurrection and Justification ! Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Justification by or at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, those who are most unlearned of the accomplishment of Christ's Death, that it did in fact Justify those...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    The True Israel, the Church are those people who have Abraham’s spiritual faith regardless of their ethnicity Gal 3:7,26-29 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    The Church, the Body of Christ is the Seed of Abraham, for its seen when we consider a couple of verses in Hebrews to start. Heb 2:11 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, This no doubt refers to...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    When one is Justified by Faith in time, it is when God has made known to them the Mystery of His Will or Decree of their Eternal Justification, it is then they are being made consciously aware of God's Justifying sentence, that was from Eternity due to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph 3:11 and...
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    Happy Birthday brightfame52

    Thank You very much !
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    What or Who is the Church?

    1689 dave Also Jesus Christ was head of His Body the Church from the beginning at creation Col 1:15-18 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether...
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