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    What or Who is the Church?

    lees But it does, even the OT Prophet John realized that Jn 3:29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
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    What or Who is the Church?

    lees He was even then the foundation stone, for the prophets and apostles Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; The OT Prophets spoke of Jesus Christ the foundation Lk 24:47 And beginning at Moses and all...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    lees Paul is first of all contrasting national Israel with Spiritual elect Israel Rom 9:6 and no Israel isnt the root, Christ is the root, the true vine Jn 15 They are not being grafted into the physical nation Israel, but they are being grafted into Jesus Christ who is the root of all the...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    lees The Church existed in the OT and its foundation was the Lord Jesus Christ even then Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 1 Cor 3:11...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    lees Hi there, I would disagree with you there. I believe the Church of Christ existed in the OT housed in the nation of Israel, being a remnant according to the election of grace. I believe the good olive tree of Rom 11 sets that forth Rom 11:17,24 And if some of the branches be broken off...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    In the Mind of God ! In the Mind of God , a Person whom Christ died in behalf of is no more Justified after they believe, than they were before they believed, for God's Justification of one does not depend upon the act of man, which believing is, for if we believe not, He remains faithful [to...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The ungodly Elect are Justified by the blood of Christ alone before God's bar of Justice, before they know of it and embrace it by Faith, and so Rom 5:1 means that God given Faith has now embraced or received the fact of having been afore time Justified by Christ's Blood Rom 5:9 or His Grace...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    When Paul teaches that one is Justified by Faith, Rom 5:1, he does not mean as the unfaithful teachers tell us, that one is Justified before God because of our act of faith or of believing, but that God given Faith embraces a Righteousness revealed to it, that was not our own Rom 1:16-17 16 For...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    What man made religion does not know and understand, but at the same time that Christ was setup as the Surety of the Everlasting Covenant, the transgressions of all He represented, all the Father gave Him, they were charged to Him or imputed to Him, and so at that time they were discharged from...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justified by His Grace before the world began ! Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. This Grace by which God's Elect are...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    It is God who Justifies ! Rom 8:33 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Now who shall lay anything to the charge[Against] of God's Elect ? It is God that Justifieth [declares righteous] Quite frankly here, the non charge by God regarding His...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith believes on Him that Justifieth the ungodly. That is God given faith receives the Divine Testimony that God Justified His People solely upon Christ's death per Rom 8:33-34, and not on account of any works or conditions performed by men, but while they were being ungodly and enemies in...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Sometimes disobedient Titus 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. Even though the Elect by Nature were disobedient, yet even then, Paul never classified them and...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    God's Justification of His Elect is Twofold, it is first and foremost forensic and declarative of God's Mind, and then it is experimental or internal, for then God causes the Justified to live like it by Faith, for the experimental comes by the New Birth. All those whom God Justifies judicially...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith is not the causative reason for one's Justification before God unless we are strictly speaking of Christ's Faith or Faithfulness, but rather it is the sense, or perception, and evidence of ones Justification [ Heb 11:1] for it is Christ's Righteousness as imputed that only Justifies before...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith being not a condition ! Faith being not a condition, but a means of revealing or making known that Justification, that already exists in God's Mind, that is already credited to ones account, because of Christ's redemptive blood. Justification by Faith is how God has ordained that the...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justified by Grace ! Rom 3:24 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Justification is a gracious act of God, because of the redemption in Christ's Blood Eph 1:7 ! That even when unworthy in ourselves, and ungodly Rom 5:6; Rom 4:5, God does...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The Just shall live by Faith ! That those Christ died for are Justified before they believe, made Righteous or Just Rom 5:19 by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. That word righteous is the greek word dikaios and is translated Just 33 times, for instance here Rom 1:16-17...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justified before God before and apart from Faith ! That all for whom Christ died, shed His Blood for, gave Himself for, that they are all Justified before God by it [His Blood] even as the blessed resurrection so declares it Rom 4:25: That this is the case is collaborated by the Truth of Rom...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    If God Justifieth the Ungodly, then it is reasonable to conclude that God did Justify them, all for whom Christ died, before they had yet been given saving Faith, and while they were ungodly enemies ! Rom 4:5 5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his...
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