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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So obviously the death of Christ for a sinner means nothing to you, it accomplished nothing for that sinner before God, thats unbelief !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Then sorry to say, thats unbelief friend.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Well then I have to honestly say you are in unbelief good buddy. In essence, though you may be doing it unintentionally, you deny that Christs death in and of itself satisfied Gods law and Justice and Justified them He died for. So then your faith is in something else that Justified you before...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    messy Right, Christ died for sinners duh Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Was He dying for sinners here, did it Justify them ? Yes or No Its a sinner who has been Justified, duh So you believe sinners that Christ died...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I know when Christ actually shed His Blood in time, maybe 33 ad, so lets say a person who Christ died for wasnt born a sinner until 1957, was that sinner who Christ died for their sins in 33 ad, born a Justified sinner before Gods law and Justice ? Yes or no ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I dont know what in the world you talking about now.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You lost me with that comment. Im saying for anyone to deny that Christs death alone for an individual, Justified them before Gods law and Justice, that puts them in unbelief, because Christs blood shed for that individual did Justify them before God, and faith is given to realize that fact Rom...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You can call it cherry picking if you want, however its establishing truth with reasonable argumentation from scripture.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    prism You kidding me right ? Thats all I have been doing in this thread, is providing scripture support for that Blessed Truth
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    If a person denies that Jesus blood alone Justified a person before God, thats unbelief, because it did.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    All of Gods elect start off in unbelief, so there is hope if Christ died for you.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You made it ample clear that you don't believe that one Christ died for is justified before God before they believe so that is unbeiief
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You can quote all that, you dont believe one is Justified before God prior to their believing, you said it. Thats not faith, but unbelief.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I cant help what you cant see !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I already told you the contradiction i see.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Then you are doubleminded. You said No to my question and stated one is justifed at faith, so you are confused about this matter, unstable. Im going by what you said here in post 457: https://christianityhaven.com/threads/who-is-him-that-justifieth-the-ungodly.11891/page-23#post-240293
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Okay I guess we know where each other stands.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith/Believing is an act whether you say it or not, and you postpone Justification before God until that act of yours.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Again we dont believe the same, I gave the reason why. Did you understand it ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Okay, then we dont believe the same, I see you as believing in justification before God according to your act of believing, and not by the mere fact that Christ died for a person. You believe in Justification by Faith alone, an act of yours, I believe in Justification by Christ alone, and Faith...
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