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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    According to Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled and when ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Im aware of views like that, however Im speaking about objective reconciliation, that's a finished reconciliation by Christs death alone which you have denied, the writer hasn't denied it !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Again, how were they reconciled to God according to Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    According to Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled to God and when ? 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    messy Yes you do discredit His death, because it plainly states they were reconciled to God while being enemies, not by responding. Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So you discredit Christs death, it plainly says they were reconciled to God by the death of His Son. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. You saying the relationship with God wasnt good...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So you saying they werent all the way reconciled in Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You dont get it either
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    messy So how could they be reconciled to God and be under Gods wrath and condemned at the same time ? The word reconciled is the greek word katallassō : o change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value to reconcile (those who are at variance) return to favour with, be reconciled...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You didnt answer the question. Sure people Christ died for are born sinners in the flesh and all that, even enemies, but scripture says people Christ died for were reconciled to God while in that sinful condition Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death...
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    Faith

    Faith to Believe in Christ is the Fruit of the Spirit ! Gal 5:22 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, The Spirit is the Fruit of Christ's Death Jn 12:24 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    How are unbelievers, enemies that Christ died for, condemned when scripture says they were reconciled to God by His death while being enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So rehearse the points I made with me so I can see if you understood them.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Post 581, did you understand it ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The free gift is of many offences unto justification ! Rom 5:16 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. Justification here is stated as a Free Gift in light of our many...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Explain my interpretation please
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    Faith

    Precious Faith 2 Therefore, Precious Faith that has to do with Salvation, with Faith in the Messiah, its obtained or received by being a alloted Gift of God, and that only to His Elect ! The CJB: To: Those who, through the righteousness of our God and of our Deliverer Yeshua the Messiah...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Post 576 did you understand it ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    More to Understand about Justification ! In no wise is Justification the act of man, nor associated with any act of man, it does not depend on nor is it conditioned upon mans faith or believing or even his knowledge of it, for it is solely an Immanent Act of God as Judge, and its date in the...
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    Faith

    They were given Faith in Christ. They obtained it, cant you read ? Its wasnt inherent in them.
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