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  1. R

    I don't find belief to be volitional and I don't understand why the majority does

    So you're saying that if someone believes for instance that aliens (the ET kind) actually exist, that the supreme being placed the belief in the person's mind?
  2. R

    I don't find belief to be volitional and I don't understand why the majority does

    Uh, ok - but what does that have to do with my comment that you quoted?
  3. R

    I don't find belief to be volitional and I don't understand why the majority does

    If beliefs can simply be engendered by consciously choosing to have them, then evidence should not be necessary. But even if it were necessary, how would one know when they had it? What would be the indicator that would allow someone to say - "At the moment I don't believe that 'X' exists, but...
  4. R

    I don't find belief to be volitional and I don't understand why the majority does

    I know that is the case with me. Nor has anyone that I have asked to demonstrate such an ability complied with the request.
  5. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    So if someone back then had said that yesterday they had studied the torah night and day that no one would have thought that at least a part of a night time would have to have been involved?
  6. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    So you're saying that it was common in Hebrew usage to say that a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a night time could be. What examples do you have to support that assertion?
  7. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    You said parts of three nights. There's no part of a third night with a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection.
  8. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    But not with a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection.
  9. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    How would you word it? The topic is about the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time would be involved with a event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be involved. I don't see how that is misleading. I don't see how it's misleading. If someone believes...
  10. R

    Interactive Religion?

    Hey, I was just wondering how it was equal.
  11. R

    Common Figure of Speech?

    And remember, the "someone new" needs to be someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that...
  12. R

    Interactive Religion?

    re: "As God, he took the equivalent of suffering for the elect sinner's eternity in Hell." How is suffering for part of a day equal to being tortured 24/7 for eternity? re: " God was satisfied even if you are not." That's a different issue.
  13. R

    Interactive Religion?

    And what was the wrath that He took that would otherwise have to be taken by the elect?
  14. R

    Interactive Religion?

    But that is not what you initially wrote. You wrote - "Jesus took the wrath of God in place of the elect ..." I took that to mean that the Messiah took the wrath that would otherwise have to be taken by the elect. I was simply asking what the wrath was.
  15. R

    Interactive Religion?

    So, what wrath did He take that would otherwise have to be taken by the elect?
  16. R

    Interactive Religion?

    Sorry, I misread your statement. What do you mean by - "Jesus took the wrath of God in place of the elect ..."?
  17. R

    Interactive Religion?

    So you're now saying He didn't take the wrath that would otherwise have to be taken by the unsaved. You might want to edit your post #17 to correct your statement.
  18. R

    Interactive Religion?

    That doesn't sound right. If the wrath amounted to total and final death in hell, how did the Messiah take it.? He was only dead for three days and three nights.
  19. R

    Why didn't Jesus die for the other thief?

    Any particular reason for quoting Stravinsk's comment with regard to Luke 23:43 and then not addressing it?
  20. R

    Why didn't Jesus die for the other thief?

    I'm sure (figure of speech) that you've seen one of the explanations for that.
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