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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Christ must be Glorified so Adam must sin. Adam was Created so Christ might be Glorified Col 1:16-18 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    He didnt have to say that. Christ must die so Adam must sin.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    No scripture says man has a free choice. There is a scripture that says God made the wicked for the day of evil, the day of His Wrath Prov 16:4 4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. God has them reserved for the day of wrath Job 21:30 That...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    God created Adam for Jesus Christ,, so Adam must and had to sin, it was Gods Purpose.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    God made the wicked, and it wasnt for salvation.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    God has predestinated all whom He chose in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4-5 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Doesnt that verse say God created or made the wicked ?
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    I dont think you know what you want to discuss. Is this thread suppose to be about National Israel ?
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    He breathed into him after he made him from clay So whats your point ? How does this tie into God created some people for hell and destruction, vessels of wrath ? Bible said God made the wicked for the day of their destruction Prov 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    messy Adam was a lifeless piece of clay when made by God, he was dust of the earth.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Is Jeremiah speaking about Adam ?
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    Faith

    Faith is an Evidence of Union with Christ ! Faith in Christ does not give us a spiritual union with Christ, but is the evidence of such a Union with Christ. For faith is the evidence of things hoped for Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Lol So does the Potter know how to make a vessel that cant collapse ? If it collapsed once what makes it so sure it wont collapse again ? Thats a reflection of the abilty of the potter.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith and Faithfulness uses the same greek word, faithfulness is the fruit of the Spirit as well as Faith Yes Faith is a fruit, you deny the scripture Gal 5:22 and its a Gift because its provided by the Spirit which is a Gift.
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    Faith

    In Rom 9 its revealed that some people were made by God to be fitted for destruction Rom 9:20-22 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justification an act of God's Grace ! 3 #3 Now those who are Justified by Christ's death, verified by His resurrection from the dead Rom 4:25, They have at least one more Justification to experience , that is in their consciousness, that verdict must be passed in their persons, this is done in...
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    Faith

    Oh No, He created them for destruction in Rom 9, for His Glory
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    Faith

    God didnt randomly chose people to die in and for their sins, He purposed it before the world began. He created some people as what scripture calls vessels of wrath and He fits them for destruction Rom 9:20-23 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say...
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    Faith

    Im just telling you how it is, most people believe everyone has faith, but its only given to Gods elect at regeneration, its specifically the Faith of Gods elect Titus 1:1-2 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of...
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    Faith

    albion A lot of people think faith in salvation is a natural ability, very few I read believe that its a fruit of the Spirit, in the new creature.
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