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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    [John 2:13-16 NASB] 13 The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated [at their tables.] 15 And He made a scourge of cords, and drove [them] all out of the temple...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    [John 1:29 NASB] 29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Another hint from John the Baptist this time. Israel or the world?
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    [John 1:9-13 NASB] 9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    [John 10:14-16 NASB] 14 "I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, 15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    You should reread John 10 more carefully. Throughout his ministry, Jesus gave clear hints that he was sent to Israel first, but his message was for all nations.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I cut my Biblical teeth under the Church of God of Anderson Indiana (a Wesleyan Holiness Movement Church), so I know that there are verses that appear to support both Limited and Universal Atonement. It is nice to see you using the verses that support your case even when read in context. :)
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Here is the “Jesus died for all” verse (and no verse literally and verbatim uses those exact words, so you really should choose your adjectives more carefully) ... [2 Corinthians 5:1-21 NASB] 1 For we know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a building from God, a...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I don’t think you can provide a scripture that says this, either ... if you want to start a new thread and show me where it says this.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    “RANSOM“, not “die for” ... reread the title of the topic.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    John 10
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    ... but still have not provided a single verse that says what you claim MANY verses “clearly“ and “verbatim” say. (“all of US believers“ is not everyone without exception. “all sin” is not all people without exception.)
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    If Jesus died for his sheep and the sinners are goats then Jesus did not die for the goats. What makes YOUR assumptions based on reading your interpretations right and MY assumptions based on my interpretations wrong? You have no scripture that actually SAYS what you claim. However, I have...
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    When the Trinity entered scripture & There is no one yet in Hell All scripture all the time :)

    Quoting out of context is just pretext. [Romans 2:9-16 NASB] 9 [There will be] tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    ... but scripture does not say for all PEOPLE (as in everyone) and that avoids the point that this topic is about who Jesus RANSOMED, not who Jesus died for. So who did Jesus RANSOM?
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Actually, scripture says no such thing. You are reading it into the verses. Scripture says Jesus died for ALL OF US (christians). Scripture says Jesus died for all sins. Scripture does not say that Jesus died for every person (no exception). I keep asking for the verse that says what you-all...
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    Are Babies Born With Sin ? (All Bible all the time)

    Just like Jesus ... it is not what you know, but who knows you. :) "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Then POST one of them! Post a verse that “flat-out, verbatim, boldly, clearly, undeniably, in black-and-white words on the page” states “Jesus died for all, for everyone, for all others too, for the whole world.” That is all I asked for.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Please post the verse that says “Jesus died for everyone without exception.” ... not for ALL of us Saints. ... not for the sins of EVERYONE ... not the sins of the WORLD. “Jesus died for every person without exception” is your claim. Where is your scripture?
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Let’s say there is a verse that says “Jesus died for every person without exception.” Why don’t you post it for all to see rather than arguing that “Jesus died for the elect” really means “Jesus died for the elect and the reprobate and the antichrists and all those that He will say ‘I never...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    There is no verse that states this.
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