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  1. hobie

    Are Doctrines affected by Modern Versions

    I came across a few verses that have been taken out or partially deleted in new versions which are interesting... Matthew 18:11 New Versions take out "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." Luke 9:56 New Versions take out "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's...
  2. hobie

    The False Doctrine of Purgatory

    I just talked to my neighbor who confirmed she was taught about Purgatory and then went on to say she also was taught about Limbo... It goes hand in hand with Purgatory. So lets look at the doctrine or belief of ‘Limbo’ which now the Catholic church is saying it never accepted, but still...
  3. hobie

    Are Doctrines affected by Modern Versions

    Lets compare one verse, 1 John 4:3: NIV - but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. RSV - and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is...
  4. hobie

    The False Doctrine of Purgatory

    Well, looks like the Pope himself may have already seen the error of Purgatory...."Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the...
  5. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    Early Christians continued to pray and rest on the seventh day, and observe the Sabbath. But apostasy began to creep in the church, especially at Rome and by the 2nd century AD you start to find were some began to hold both, and soon a number of Christians affected by the spreading apostasy...
  6. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    Now as for Moses and Elijah meeting on the mountain top with the Disciples and Christ lets look at scripture. 2 Kings 2:1 2 And it came to pass, when the Lord would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal. 2 Kings 2:11 11 And it came to pass, as...
  7. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    Well lets go over a verse that many who advocate the soul is immortal use to point out the distinction between soul and body. Lets take a look at Matthew 10:28: Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy...
  8. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    Lets go over the story of the Witch of Endor and Saul, but lets see what the real Samuel told Saul before this... 1 Samuel 15:18-28 18 And the Lord sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed. 19 Wherefore...
  9. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    When a living breathing creature (a soul) ceases to breath he is asleep, he is "dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day, and is not ascended into the heavens” Acts 2:29,34. They "do not remember God." Psalms 6:5 "The dead do not praise the Lord." Psalms 115:17 "Their thoughts...
  10. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    But what does the Bible say, rather than relying on ideas or traditions of man, we need to go by Gods Word.
  11. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    Now lets go over the 'bosom of Abraham' as it was clearly a parable. Josephus left on record a “Discourse to the Greeks Concerning Hades,” which illuminates Jesus’ Dives and Lazarus story. Not only does it parallel Christ’s narration, showing that it was based on a current Jewish belief, but it...
  12. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    It doesn't matter what denomination we are, it is Gods truth which He gives us in His Word that we need to grasp and understand, not dogma or tradition. Here is more on Luther, which I didn't get a chance to include... "Archdeacon Blackburne's incisive summation of Luther's position was this...
  13. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    There is a lot of misunderstanding on this, especially the "bosom of Abraham" but lets go through it and see what scripture shows us. Let me put something that I just came across on Martin Luther that relates to this. "A careful analysis of Martin Luther’s writings reveals more than 300...
  14. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    The early church held to this belief at the time of the apostles as it was the original Christian teaching and later as we can see, theological arguments based on this belief were also used to contest the Roman Catholic doctrine of purgatory and masses for the dead. Now if there was ever a man...
  15. hobie

    The intermediate state of life after death

    This is not an easy subject, but we must understand what scripture gives us and discern. God cannot reward men with the bliss of heaven or the pain of hell before they are judged, and then resurrected to receive one or the other. The Bible nowhere says that rewards are given at death, but at the...
  16. hobie

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    If you are in Christ and Christ in you, scripture is pretty clear you have to depart from iniquity... 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity...
  17. hobie

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Its not an easy issue, but Christ makes it clear that at the end those who continue in the bondage of sin, will be put to one side, and it is not with the righteous... Matthew 25:32-34 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd...
  18. hobie

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    That is correct, we then have to have Christ is us and we in Christ so we can be freed from the bondage of sin. So we repent and God forgives, but then do we continue in sin Romans 6 King James Version (KJV) 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God...
  19. hobie

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    We find the following will happen at the end... Revelation 22:11 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. So do you think sin will be part...
  20. hobie

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    We cannot just keep with the same character full of sin and iniquity, and continue as its slave doing the bidding of Satan. Christ is clear that we have to become free from the bondage of sin, and be righteous or we will not be going to heaven: Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your...
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