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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Congratulations … you have graduated to full fledged HERETIC.
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    In 1 Peter 4:8 the word “charity” in the KJV is “agape” in the Greek. Do you have a clue what “agape” means and is that “giving money to the poor”? (charity/alms) That will explain 1 Peter 4:8 (or you could just read more modern English in any translation less than 150 years old). [1 Peter 4:8...
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    Do you agree with the Nicean creed, but disagree with the other decisions at the Council of Nicaea?

    “I will loan you $100 to buy groceries, but you need to pay me back $150” “Thank you, Father.” [Are you really asking if I think the Nicene Council was wrong to have a problem with that scenario in the Church?] To be clear, I agree with the Nicene Council that Christian Clergy should not...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    However, it appears that the rabid fans of Tobit and buying salvation are unwilling or unable to correct me by explaining. “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he means the opposite of what he says” is the best that I can get in response. Tobit says what it says and your carefully...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Will YOUR “charity” cover YOUR “sins”? Does “cover” mean “wash away“ or “pardon”? Was Peter teaching that our giving to the poor will buy forgiveness for sins we have committed? That IS exactly how Tobit says it works. Read the quote from Tobit again and tell me how I have not properly...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    My Ecclesiastes 3 stops at verse 22. That verse teaches the EXACT same anti-Pauline works-salvation as Tobit. Context is EVERYTHING: [Luke 11:37-54 NKJV] 37 And as He spoke, a certain Pharisee asked Him to dine with him. So He went in and sat down to eat. 38 When the Pharisee saw [it], he...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Be honest or this conversation is over. Do you really believe that James teaches salvation by works? (Then quote him). Did any apostle teach that charity towards strangers would save you? (Then quote them). Tobit quite literally says that alms will save you. That is salvation based on good...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Tobit teaches salvation by works … a heretical teaching contradicted by the Apostles. I have no doubt why Tobit is not canon. Either Tobit or the Pauline Letters need to be removed. [Romans 11:6 CSB] Now if by grace, then it is not by works; otherwise grace ceases to be grace.
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Which Church Council from 400 to 1500 changed the Vulgate Bible to correct Jerome’s introductions to agree with Church Doctrine on the matter? NONE … the Church kept his introductions in the Official Bible of every church in the Western Empire for over 1000 years … the Bibles that trained every...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Please quote them if you are going to make the claim. otherwise … “The church councils of Rome, Hippo, and Carthage declared that Tobit is not divine, canonical scripture and should not be read in any church.” (Claims are easy to make.)
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    1. In response to an earlier claim that Rufus accepted Tobit and disagreed with Jerome. 2. The book in question is Tobit. (I have enough trouble with one book I don’t care about without jumping about the apocrypha checking facts and rumors.)
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    You have yet to demonstrate that the “First Christians” received Tobit as scripture. Since some of the ECF rejected Revelation, should we? EDIT: (What dead individuals believed is not a sound yardstick for such important decisions. ECF quotes prove the scrolls existed and the ECF had read it...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Proves that he found Tobit useful (if it is a quote from Tobit, I never read Tobit since I prefer the NT) which is what Jerome says of all the apocryphal books and why they were included alongside the actual Holy Scripture (canon) in the Bible. Nothing in the quote remotely suggests “canonical...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Give me a hint, does the word Tobit even appear in this wall of text? I am about to turn 60 and wasting hours reading old letters that have nothing to do with the discussion that I was dragged into by egregious false claims is not something that I care to do. The question is “Is Tobit canonical...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Oh well, now we need to discard the KJV and all modern translations that draw from the Vulgate. You really are not making things better for someone in the 20th century that just wants to read the Word of God to learn more about this Jesus. I sure hope that fish gut eye salve magic elixir...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    I read this several times … what a giant NOTHINGBURGER! Jerome doesn’t say Tobit is scripture. Jerome doesn’t say the Bishops thought Tobit was scripture. So what does Jerome say? He didn’t want to translate it because Jerome was an expert at translating Hebrew into Latin and Tobit was not...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Translation of Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Songs of Solomon according to the Hebrew (c. AD 398)
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Why, is it a real page turner? :)
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    Actually, I have doubts that they were actually “First Christians” (the group YOU were looking for). Someone that was a boy that knew an apostle when he was an old man and eventually wrote something when the boy was an old man and the last Apostle was long dead … is not exactly the “first...
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    Why does the book of Revelation say that you can anoint your eyes with medicine to cure blindness?

    1. Provide the quote in context so we can see for ourselves that they viewed it as scripture. The quote I presented from Jerome made his opinion of Tobit clear … interesting to read, but clearly NOT canon. 2. I DO expect very strong evidence to support adding books to the Holy Bible as God...
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