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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Why did you cite this passage?
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    THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET

    Luke 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, 1:69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; 1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: The prophets spoke of the...
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    CHOSEN BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

    Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25 above is dealing with the judgment of the Gentile nations that will enter the earthly Davidic kingdom promised...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: The new covenant according to this verse is for Israel, not the body of Christ, which is a new creature (Galatians 6:15), a new man (Ephesians 2:15).
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. The nation that will be given the kingdom of God is the believing remnant of Israel, it will be taken from Israel.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I am not sure what you are saying....the Bible says that not all Israel is Israel...the Israel of God are those of faith.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I agree Israel has temporarily been set aside, but it sounds like you are saying we are under covenant as being the people of God. Will Israel receive the new covenant at the return of Christ? Are all the passages speaking of Israel spoken of the church, the body of Christ?
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    But in covenant theology does it not say Israel and all their promises and covenants have been given to the church, the body of Christ?
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    No Israel was temporarily set aside.....we are saved in this dispensation by grace, by the cross and faith in Christ. After this dispensation and our gathering unto him, Israel will enter the tribulation and will once again preach the gospel of the kingdom, the remnant of Israel will be saved...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    God has a purpose for the remnant of Israel and the body of Christ. Christ redeemed Israel to reconcile the earth....the body of Christ reconciles heavenly places. They will be gathered together in one in the future.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    I just saw this, allow me to say, I think you misunderstood what I was saying so let me reprint my post and highlight my statements: 1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Revealed to Paul, was the mystery, that the sacrificial death of Jesus was a ransom...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    My last sentence: "Let me say, if you believe that Christ died for our sins and rose for our justification and imputes his righteousness to us then we are in accord, we are discussing doctrine." No it has nothing to do with ransom for all, I was saying our discussion was to clarify...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    That the world would be saved was in prophecy Psalm 98:2-3 That Christ would die for all apart from Israel, by faith in Christ alone and the cross, was a mystery revealed to Paul.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Verse 18 says they had to believe on his name for eternal life John 20:31 If Israel received Christ he would have established the kingdom on earth and the world would come to God through Israel. Isaiah 60:3
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    God always purposed to save the world Psalm 98:2-3 Jesus died to redeem the sins of Israel so that the world could come to God through them. Isaiah 2:1-4 Israel was to be a light to the Gentile nations who will enter into the kingdom on earth. Isaiah 60:3
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Jew or Gentile could believe on his name. They would be the remnant of Israel, the church of God, but not the body of Christ.
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. The existing fold is the believing Israel of God, the little flock. The other sheep are the little flock that has been scattered...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Yes, he would send the disciples to preach the gospel to all the nations in the tribulation period, to bring in the earthly kingdom, in which the remnant of Israel would bless the Gentiles, and bring them to God. Going back to John 17, in verse 20 he speaks of the believing remnant of Israel...
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Jesus is not praying for the world, but for the disciples and the remnant of Israel John 17:9
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    RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

    Jesus was talking about his sheep Israel in John 10. Please show me a message for the church, the body of Christ, The gospel Jesus sent the disciples out to preach to the nations was the gospel of the kingdom, the earthly kingdom in which the Gentiles would come to God through Israel.
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