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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    Reformed: R.C. Sproul George Whitefield David Brainerd William Carey J.I. Packer Particular Baptists: John Bunyan (1628–1688): English preacher and author of The Pilgrim's Progress Hercules Collins (d. 1702): English Pastor, author of An Orthodox Catechism, and signer of the 1689 London...
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    Is the doctrine of Penal Substitution incoherent?

    So what? One person has objections to one attempt to offer a human explanation for a possible mechanism by which the death of Christ achieves the results which God claims (in His Holy Bible) that Christ’s death DO ACHIEVE. There is agreement in Scripture and among Christians on the WHAT that...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Point 5 claims “The Elect cannot lose their salvation. Salvation is the work of God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, so it cannot be thwarted. None God has called will be lost, they are eternally secure. Technically, it is God who perseveres, not the saints.” and, thus, have...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    God never promised “kindness” to His enemies. God promised to store up wrath for the day of wrath. God promised forgiveness for all who believe in Jesus. Why do you shake your fist at God for keeping His promise?
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    We are not God’s children. God is the creator and we are His creation. If I form three clay pots, what moral obligation do I have to love those clay pots? That God chooses to adopt some of His creation and treat them as His Children, speaks of the grace [unmerited favor] of God and not a moral...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    No.
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    Romans 1:18-22 [NKJV] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown [it] to them. For since the creation of the world His...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    I did. (Your premise and accusations were false).
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    So you have said. Yet, 4 is: “God brings his Elect to salvation through an internal call, which they are powerless to resist.” which says NOTHING about works, so your statement is false. [It is completely a side point, but the 5 points come from the Synod of Dort and not from John Calvin …...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    You simply disbelieve that God is good. You are falling into the same trap that Eve fell into when Satan implied that God was withholding something good in the Forbidden Fruit. So you and Eve have both chosen to believe that YOUR VIEW is better than God’s word. That is your right to make that...
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    The 5 points of TULIP for 1689Dave

    First, a disclaimer: I do not care if anyone believes or accepts ANY of the 5 points of Calvinism. As a Calvinist, I place my trust in the sovereignty of God, so I am not responsible for convincing anyone to believe any truth. I am only responsible to state truth as I know it. My goal is for...
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    Why not? I was under the understanding that Catholics view the Church as the Bride of Christ and all of its members as destined for heaven (after a brief tune-up in purgatory, as needed). How is that not like the Calvinist idea that the Elect are all those that God has chosen to save, the body...
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    Only from the outside looking in. I cannot see into the heart of another person and know what they believe. I can examine my own heart and know what I believe. In that respect, it is no different than knowing which “Catholic” or “Anglican” or “Baptist” is wheat or a tare. One can only know if...
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    Since “elect” is synonymous with “saved” (justified), is ”Calvinist” any different than “Catholic” in that respect. In other words, is the following statement also true: “One may be a Catholic and think of one's self as saved, but the reality may be different.” I can only give my opinion on...
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    Are all Catholics part of the Church? The ”elect” are those saved by the blood of Christ as distinct from the Children of the Devil and God haters of various scriptures (like Romans 1:18-32). [To answer directly, they all think that they are, just as everyone attending a Catholic Church...
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    If 1 Corinthians 10:13 is supposed to be addressed to all Christians, it is not true

    [Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 NKJV] Two [are] better than one, Because they have a good reward for their labor. For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him [who is] alone when he falls, For [he has] no one to help him up. Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; But...
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    You have strange notions of what Calvinism teaches. :(
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    The question would be similar to asking any practicing Catholic if they thought they might be a “son of perdition”? If they were a son of perdition, they would probably not waste time on being a devout Catholic. In the same way, the fact that one is “wasting their time” seeking God argues...
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    Mary the ark

    There are two arks in scripture and, functionally, both point more towards Christ than Mary. Noah constructed an ark that enclosed 8 people and delivered them from the Judgement and destruction of God in the great flood: it is Christ in whom men find ultimate deliverance from judgement and...
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