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Did Jesus die for the goats? No, He died for the sheep.

You do this every day. The subject determines the meaning of all. I bought all the cherries (in the store). Or "all" the cherries I could fit in a single sack. “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.” John 10:11 (NCV) “But you don’t believe, because you are...

You are assuming I share your inconsistencies. Remember, I said it is a lie to tell people Jesus died for them and offer the gospel as if it is a means for them to save themselves by. Jesus died for our sins. If you believe, repent and be baptized, and live a holy life, would be the true gospel.

We preach the gospel to all. The born-again will believe and repent. The others will treat it as foolishness. The human spirit is saved by the new birth which precedes and makes faith a reality in the heart. To "offer" the gospel shows a complete lack of understanding of the gospel.

Yes. But they Preached (announced) the gospel. They did not "offer" it, as is the custom today. It is a lie to tell everyone Jesus died for them as they do in offering the gospel. Furthermore, it offers people the option to save themselves through works of the flesh. If they must choose to...

"Dave's view is like that." Tell us what my view is.

Only God can justify the ungodly. People cannot justify the ungodly so they are an abomination of the Lord who try to do so. Can you think of any churches that justify the ungodly? There arequite a few in my experience.

But the word falls on bad ground 3/4 of the time. Only one good soil produces fruit. Can you guess what that is?

Universal Atonement is Pelagianism, dependent on free will. You are stuck here and cannot escape it. Think of it as Luther's "Full Nelson"

Universal atonement doesn't save anyone. This means the person must save themselves with some form of choice. I think you would say by choosing not to resist.

Think like a Hebrew to whom it was written instead of an Americanised Christian, and you'll understand the bible.

You imply only those who choose to believe save themselves. You need to study Luther's bondage of the will in this matter.

From the start, you think people choose to believe in order to save themselves. This has nothing to do with Bible faith. If you must choose to believe, it is because you don't believe.

Let us move on and remain friends on this forum.

It's time to move on.

Where's your explanation of faith?

Prove you are saved.

What if you do not know what faith is? If you know, share it.

How can anyone prove they are saved on the internet? If you knew me personally you would know. Besides, Have you ever heard your church mention the Sermon on the Mount as depicting the life-style of the saved? No salvation apart from it.

Do you live the Sermon on the Mount? John says unless you do, you are not saved.