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I keep getting an F (not even D-) in human genealogy. I also believe that natural human genealogy is a shadow of the spiritual reality in relationships that exist. Do genetics exist? Yes. Do faith offspring exist? Yes. Does a brother in the Lord have a genetic link to the other person? He...

I seem to get there are at least 2 major branches. The Jewish chosen (natural) branch, And The wild olive (?) branch that was later grafted Into the vine. I have not yet gotten it totally all together. if Jesus said I am the vine and you are the branches could that leave the father as the...

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So our heart is enriched when we confess our flesh sins. Our mind rejoices. The law is placed in our hearts and minds. We may do some things but it is actually Christ working in us. His being seated on the right hand of the father, and making intercession for us, gives Him the praise...

II kings 13:21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet. This is a level of understanding in...

It will be much better to use the parable of the sower as the basis of Pardes for Gentiles. The parable of the sower has levels of understanding that fit extremely well, and are not modified by Jewish traditions. But. Gentiles have put interpretations on the understanding of parables, that we...

From Moses to John the law was taught. Luke 16:16 kjv The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. John taught: Believe in Jesus, and he will baptise you in the Holy Spirit and Fire

Ok Here to jointly learn. Under the Old Testament Law: The priest did not own land. Their income came out of tithes and offerings of the tribes land allotments. eddif

Ok here we go. We are right and wrong at the same time. Paul described our life situation to a (T). With our new mind we serve the law of God With the flesh the law of sin Instead of memorizing the Jewish Pardes levels (good basic look at levels), let us base our levels search othe “parable...

Ah yes the oxen thread: I Timothy 5:17 17. Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. 18. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. The...

Romans 9 helps identify the branch of promise also.

Romans 11:1 kjv 1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. This is the Jewish branch. I know it has levels, but try hard to just see Gods people The natural branch will always be Israel. How slow...

I hope I got to everyone who made a comment or asked a question. The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth. eddif may remove a little seed coat from the corn, but all those who take the inner part of the corn must process it according to your individual calling. One may make coarse ground...

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That was a slip on my part. Not the quote about John the Baptist in Matthew 11:11. (A related scripture about moving from the law to kingdom teaching). But Romans 11:18 and following warns the gentiles to see they too could be broken off. Very sorry. eddif

And you have found the reason I even mention Pardes. The disciples had issues in understanding Jesus. The apostles had the real meaning of the law placed in their hearts and minds at Pentacost. This placement of His quickening spirit (in them) allowed them to open the true meaning of the law...

I follow Jesus Christ and him crucified, raised from the dead, Ascended into Heaven where he ever makes intercession for us. The frying pan / fire means I have opened a discussion that can be hard for me to explain. John the Baptist said Jesus would baptise us in the Holy Spirit and fire. By...

The goal is for a person to follow Jesus. There is just one name under Heaven that brings salvation. the Gentiles mess up when they develop side notes to the scriptures. The gentiles can undo the law by their traditions just like the Jews did. Jesus spoke against human traditions.

A gentile is the wild branch grafted in after the natural Jewish branch was broken off. Read all of Romans 11

S Sod is the highest level listed. Fruits is a lower level. Jesus is the first fruit raised from the dead. Our redemption.