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  1. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    That is exactly my point. Many Catholics act like there was never any debate or disagreement on the Deutero books. They act like they have always been accepted by all Catholics everywhere as part of the Canon. That is simply not true. Even as late as Trent there were high ranking Catholics...
  2. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    If you decide to wear a raincoat on a rainy day when you thought it would be sunny does that change who you are? If you plan on eating potatoes but then change your mind and decide to eat corn, does that mean you have changed? Are you a different person? Did you cease to be one person and...
  3. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    I've been away for a few days and am just now catching up. In response to this I'll a quote from the New Catholic Encyclopedia From the New Catholic Encyclopedia In the Latin Church, all through the Middle Ages we find evidence of hesitation about the character of the deuterocanonicals. There...
  4. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    How do you know the change in instruction isn't perfect? After the flood the circumstances of mankind changed. Circumstance on earth Changed so God changed His instruction to man for mankind's benefit. Wouldn't it have been imperfect if God had kept the same instructions to man when man's...
  5. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    And you are giving your understanding. Which is wrong. Both Biblically and historically.
  6. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    Either it is all God's word or none of it is. Picking and choose what is "Gold" and what is "Stone" is how cults get started. You pick and choose based on your preconceived beliefs. And, as I said earlier, you are shaping God into your image instead of letting the Word shape you into God's...
  7. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    If you don't believe part of the scriptures then how can you believe any of it?
  8. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    Is your beef that they were removed from American Evangelical Bibles or that Protestant/Evangelicals don't consider the said books to be part of the Canon of Scripture? So that even if they don't consider them to be part of the Canon they should have left them in the printed Bible in the same...
  9. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    You keep quoting this verse. It does not mean what you think it means. This is God showing the hypocrisy of the Jews. Their offering aren't acceptable because of the state of their hearts toward God. Even the grain offerings weren't acceptable to God. It has nothing to do with "killing an...
  10. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    Why do you believe the scripture you quote but not believe the scriptures I (and others have quoted). What makes your scripture references have greater value than our scripture references? You are asking us to believe your interpretation of scripture, which ignores a large portion of...
  11. Lanman87

    John 5:18

    I think it is important to note that Jesus didn't actually break the Sabbath Law. He broke the Jews Sabbath traditions and teachings that had sprang up over the centuries about how to best keep the Mosaic Law. The Jews had instituted all kinds of "rules" that went way beyond the Mosaic law.
  12. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    So the scriptures are wrong and cannot be believed?
  13. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    How do you explain these scriptures other than to ignore them, deny they exist, or say the God can't direct people to sin (which is true) and one way we know that eating animals isn't a sin. God told us that they are to be our food. Genesis 9:2-3 The fear of you and the terror of you will be...
  14. Lanman87

    Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

    In my opinion, what we have here is someone reading their preconceived notions of right and wrong into their idea of God. They are making God be who they want him to be. Which is a God who considers the killing of animals a sin. This person ignores both Scripture and History to make God fit...
  15. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    I was speaking to the point that early Protestant Bibles also contained the books in question. Not as to what Catholics and Orthodox have in their Bibles. Early Protestants followed what many Catholics in the middle ages believed. That these books are profitable for devotion/history but do...
  16. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    But did they believe the books rose to the level of Canon, being completely inspired and equal to the 66 other books? No. They believed it should be included as a appendix for devotion/historical material. Which is the same thing many early church fathers and many theologians in the middle...
  17. Lanman87

    It is finished

    I have often heard that the Greek word for "It is finished" tetelestai is an accounting/financial term. When someone finished a job they would tell their employer tetelestai. Or when someone paid off a loan in full is was considered tetelestai. Complete or Paid if full seems to line up...
  18. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    The books were included as devotional/historic material. There was never consensus on if they considered authoritative/without error/for doctrine. There was a debate within the Catholic Church throughout the middle ages on if they deserved to be "cannonized". From the New Catholic...
  19. Lanman87

    What does a call for a pastor look like?

    This is my opinion. First, preachers/pastors/priest/ministers/missionaries being called is a scriptural principle. We see throughout both the Old and New Testaments God calling specific people to serve in specific ways. Noah, Moses, Abraham, David, the Prophets, the Apostles and so forth...
  20. Lanman87

    When friends ask about finding the right church, what's the right advice?

    1. Find a church that has Orthodox Christology. Who Jesus is, Trinitarian, and so forth 2. Find a church that is Gospel centered. Simply put, a Gospel centered church is all about Jesus and His work on our behalf and living in and displaying His Grace and Mercy. Some churches are preacher...
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