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But if Jesus came to save all and shed his blood for all, doesn't it make it make him somewhat of a failure if he isn't successful in actually saving all? Just wondering? :)

Next year, I should go with something along these lines.

They gave us red flame-shaped pieces of paper to attach to our Sunday best today.

I think it's a little unfair to blame God (or the devil, for that matter) for a lot of the things that come our way. Often it's our own fault.

The modern right wing gets Christians to vote against everything Jesus talked about by talking about abortion, which Jesus never talked about. -- John Fugelsang.

I agree that in the specific account, fear was a factor, but in other instances it may not be. It's only common sense to ask for help, methinks ... and to continue to try on one's own in case Jesus feels lazy that day or one can't awaken him. ;)

Because that's the day that the Holy Spirit came upon/into the people who would be members of the Church and gave it life/power.

There's nothing wrong with a bit of both, is there?

However, Jesus was quite clear about helping the poor. One would think it would be a given that that would include giving them a decent living wage. And just because the working conditions and financial state of average workers in Jesus' day were really bad, it doesn't follow that just because...

But she did have a lot of frippery about the place.

Feel free to include any other frippery that may skitter across your brain's synapses. :groupheads:

This comes from a crisis discussion in the Chatbox; the very foundation of the Church may depend upon it. In your opinion, what are frippery, junk, and rubbish? How do they relate to each other, and how has Hyacinth Bucket influenced this in your life?

The clergy of most litugical churches will wear red. The antepedia will also be red. Interestingly, most Pentecostal churches don't mark the day in any way, as they do not follow the Church Calendar with its attending feast days.

Canada has Remembrance Day, but it's not a holiday for going to the beach or celebrating. It's a sombre occasion. The way that many in the US observe Memorial Day has always baffled me.

creamy Would you rather spend the rest of your life under the ocean in a submarine or in outer space in a space station?

Greetings Saucy

What I mean by those things is the most straightforward way of understanding them possible, and that, when looked at in the proper context, those things aren't actually condemned by Scripture.

I beg to differ as to the above being the plain meanings of anything, but this isn't the point of this thread, so I will decline to debate you.

Something different. :heheh: