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Doesnt your leader say 'Take eat/drink, this IS my body/blood' when he offers the bread/wine. What does the IS mean at the time?

This sounds pretty good, but the parts I hi-lighted in red seem to contradict each other. Also the first line about being in 'willful' sin, Im not sure of a difference unless you mean the sin of unbelief, but I still agree with what MennoSota said, if they are taking the literal IS every time...

Hallelujah anyhow! America (and Israel) haters are gonna get their wish soon enough. Jesus is coming soon. :cheer:

Yes, its a memorial/prophecy/celebration! We show His death til He comes. It demonstrates that we acknowledge that He not only died for our sins, but that He's alive and He's coming again. There's no magic in the symbols of bread and wine...the sharing of the bread and wine is a declaration of...

Yet you seem to keep equating 're-receiving' His grace and mercy (and forgiveness? but idk...someone said it somewhere, idk if it was you, sorry) But even at that, if you believe you are receiving grace and mercy thru ingestion of bread and wine, rather than by faith..... Okay, let me try it...

I am more glad every day Jesus saved me from religious bunkem and the nonsense that causes so much disunity, but maybe I've been looking for and expecting unity in all the wrong places. First we're told we HAVE to assume everyone's a christian, then we're told if we disagree, WE must not be...

Seriously, arent all these religious 'enjoyable discussions' (arguements) causing division and bad feelings? To the point where its starting to seem deliberate just so a couple few can say 'we win'? You have a couple of Lutherans who INSIST their opinion is the only acceptable one, and no...

Nice. How about letting brotherly love continue instead of causing divisions over something Jesus did (broke His body, shed His blood) that was meant to unite?

Well, another version and interpretation of scripture, that time by a presbyterian turned RomanCatholic. Thats nice for him. And then the added quotes similar to post#221 . It proves nothing. Jesus knew He was sitting there with the disciples. He knew He would be the Lamb slain to pay for our...

There used to be a commercial, showing an egg... "This is your brain." then the egg in a hot frying pan... "This is your brain on drugs... ...any questions?" Jesus held broken bread... "This is my body." Jesus held a cup of wine... "This is my blood." (Any questions?)

I read those horrible things in post #221 . Cant understand why anyone would want to hold them up as 'folks to follow' especially regarding Jesus' passover supper. Mysticism, heresy, works-righteousness ... I thought we would have moved passed the dark ages by now. The bread and wine are...

Reading thru post#221, my stomach started turning, it really was unsettling to read all those quotes and see so much, dare I say, heresy, intermingled. Just unbelieveable that ppl believed in such mystical mumbo-jumbo, (but perhaps bibles were scarce back then, Im really think so) but wow, not...

Catho LIC? Bashing?? come onnn... Really now...a little honesty is in order, yes no? How many times does it have to be pointed out that exposing some of the false DOCTRINE and PRACTICE that comes out of the RC (or any other) denomination is not a 'bashing' (boo-hoo), of CathoLICS, let alone...

This hurts way more than I can even begin to explain. I feel like Ive lost, not one, not two, but three ppl in one..... plus a whole bunch of 'attachments', too ..... and right before Christmas. My heart is pretty heavy right now. Is sucks considered profanity? Im sorry if it is, but man, this...

Yes, recently I wrote an equivalent to 'what the heck' only used the symbol things, and that wasnt right, I apologize. I was just shocked at how misunderstood one of my posts was and couldnt believe the response to it. Just a misunderstanding. As far as the name calling...wow, Ive been the...

Its still what the Lutheran denomination (s?) teach based upon their opinion, and thats fine, thats what the thread is, as you pointed out. Its when we read 'THIS is what 'The Church' believed for 1500 years' (really? which? not the Lutheran, obviously) ... Or 'NOBODY believed this or that...

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YES!!! :cheer: :smashfreakb: UNITY!!! :outtahere: (And dont forget to hold them under the water until they gurgle the sinners prayer!) :shark:

Not really, because it's just opinions from SOME Lutherans, obviously not all, and the more I hear of Lutheran opinions, the more they seem determined to divide the body of Christ, rather than unite, and I think Id rather go to the bible, where I KNOW its true and I have much to learn, rather...

Its a shame that what might have been just some joyous worship got squashed by some less-free sticks in the mud. (Although, watch the flagsticks in the eye...OUCH!) But I think too, that with some of the OTHER stuff that went on like howling and rolling and moaning in the aisles, yet having...