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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    The ante-nicene Christians did not segregate nor distinguish them apart from the rest of scripture. Jerome got with some unbelieving Jews in the 4th century who told him that the Christians have been using the wrong books and the wrong versions... among those they rejected were the NT...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    Ah yes, an article about Martin Luther, a Catholic monk who believed for most of his life the doctrine of purgatory. Had he performed proper exegesis he would have discovered that those dogmatic doctrines were entirely unfounded, surprised he didn't point out the more obvious heresy that these...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    Still wrong. They are part of the Bible and have been for centuries, who me where Luther or Calvin states anything resembling "the books called Apocrypha should not be part of the Holy Bible and should be taken out" It is not, these books were always considered traditional scriptures for the...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    So when the majority of 1rst, 2nd, 3rd, 4th century Church fathers quote lines from the so called "Apocrypha" text after using such words as "for it is written" "thus sayith the Lord" "found in our Scripture" "the Logos hath said" etc.. they ought to have been rebuked for leading astray the...
  5. Andrew

    Explain the Trinity to me.

    Just tell them that it's always been a hot debate because even those who don't adhere to the Trinitarian creed still attempt to explain the mystery of the Godhead relating them to nature (liquid/solid/gas) and "roles", stuff like that. The creed basically implies "it's a mystery but this is as...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    The last I checked the Jews who settled the canon after Christ were never part of the Church anyway and according to their canon, all things written between the hellenistic era up to greek NT times were cut off even though they are of Jewish origin. However, "the churches" according to...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    It was included because it was included in the "bibles" before, in that sense I can say that any books of the Bible were at one point "included"
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    The King James 1611 included them, the Geneva bible, ALL bibles included them for the majorty of Christendom... were they ignorant dummies and conspiracy theorists when they became concerned that the Jews were removing them when they obviously quote them in their Targums and in the dead sea...
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    Extending human life.

    Nah, the universe to come is going to be awesome. ..eternal life too (non-robot bodies)
  10. Andrew

    Extending human life.

    "My" Christianity promotes a long life full of years :)
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    Easter Monday?

    Mine says that too, I never noticed it before.
  12. Andrew

    It's me again.

    So glad you're back!!!
  13. Andrew

    What message do you get out of the story of the prodigal son?

    He accepts them both even though the obedient son gets jelly it's such a good parable :) I like also how Jesus states that he 'did not come to heal the righteous', very true, no matter how righteous one believes he or she is..even if they believe they follow the OT law flawlessly, the Law was...
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    What message do you get out of the story of the prodigal son?

    Rebellious Son = [emoji207] Obedient Son = [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231] [emoji207] [emoji231]...
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    New guy

    Glad to have you here!
  16. Andrew

    Should US Presidents have an age limit?

    Biden is the oldest president to be elected and it shows. What's retirement at now? 65 right? Seems kind of young for someone who doesn't do any manual labor and has lived a comfortable life..maybe a cognitive test would be something to consider.. Biden had brain surgery if I'm not mistaken...
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    Couple aborted 6 mo fetus because of DNA

    Disgusting
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    Loving this Lutheran Study of the Apocrypha books

    We've already been through this, the books removed from the KJV 1611, and when I quote from an early church father who calls any particular one "scripture" before they quote from that particular book, you excuse it as "scripture" just meaning any literature. Church tradition included those...
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    I believe Noah’s flood was 5,000 years ago, not 4,400.

    Wow! So what about when they quote other parts of OT scripture? Were they all fluent in Hebrew now?
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