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I quite like the Royals so this kiwi wouldn't want a republic (mostly, to be frank, because IMO my fellows couldn't vote for anyone with sense for president.)

29-33C here. Far too hot for this early in Summer.

Liberal Quaker 100% Anglican 94% Seems good to me. Sent from my F8331 using Tapatalk

I have suffered from life-long chronic depression as well as type 2 diabetes since I was in my early 30s. Some days are easier than others.

Bearing in mind the patriarchal nature of Jewish society I don't find that comment compelling.

Isn't it? I would argue that those portions of scripture referring to God as "he"are likewise allegorical because God is a spirit.

The Bible also says that God is like a woman giving birth and has wings. Perhaps you might like to reconsider?

Why would you argue otherwise? Are you arguing that God has gender and that it is male only?

The NZPB offers the 'Father and Mother' in only a couple of places and has many other options. Gendered language for God is really not terribly useful, God is a spirit and thus has no gender other than what we ascribe which is why the Bible uses imagery of a woman in labour for God and speaks of...

Statements made by Jesus while he was human are not useful here. His knowledge while human was limited and parochial (which the scriptures themselves tell us.) Further, you are quoting from John's Gospel which is the farthest away from Jesus' life in time period and the most mystical. There is...

It is. It is the IDIC symbol. What can I sat? I'm a Trekkie (and a nerd!)

Proof texting involves taking a passage of scripture out of it's context, it's societal milieu and trying to force it into a particular doctrinal eisegesis.

We do not have to re-fight the filioque here on the board. It comes from a time when there was no completely united church and thus it is not a foundational statement rather it reflects the time and the politics of the societies in which it was formed and rejected. Really it is time for...

The filioque is largely not used in Old Catholic churches and has become optional recently in Anglican / Episcopal ones as well.

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Taihape, NZ

Most Old Catholic churches are good. The Polish OC's are more conservative than most of the rest of us but don't let that stop you. I have been ordained since the mid-1980s.

In my case over a decade of study with differing groups mostly because I cannot afford full-time study. So I have more certificates and diplomas than I actually know what to do with. Then sponsorship from a Bishop and acceptance by the houses of Bishops, of Clergy and of the Laity followed by...

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