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  1. SetFree

    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    No... the idea of being "caught up" per Apostle Paul (what some call a rapture), is ONLY about the saints alive on earth being gathered. It has NOTHING to do with Christ's gathering the asleep saints that are in Heaven which He brings with Him. If you had actually studied 1 Thessalonians...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    No... their is no rapture PRIOR to the "great tribulation". Lord Jesus made it plain that He comes to gather His saints AFTER... the tribulation. So if you want Him to reject you at His coming, then keep believing those false prophets on the false Pre-trib Rapture theory. The 'deceived' in...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    That does not make sense. You are confused. I do not know the 'date' of Christ's coming, even though I showed you the Rev.11 Scripture of the 7th trumpet coming right after the two witnesses arise. The SIGNS we are 'commanded' to WATCH for are from the time just before the "great tribulation"...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    I don't know the 'day' of Christ's future coming, so please do not suggest I do just because I showed you that the Revelation 11 Scripture shows the 7th trumpet - 3rd woe happens right after the 3 and 1/2 days there. It's still a toss-up when Jesus comes right after that 3 & 1/2 days when the...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    The Book of Daniel events align with the order of the SIGNS Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse and in His Revelation. The only change is that Jesus said He shortened the tribulation for sake of His elect (Matt.24:22). Once the Antichrist appears sitting in the temple in Jerusalem proclaiming to...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    Not all of us are going to be delivered up to give that Testimony for Christ and be beheaded. And those of us who will be, I am certain Jesus will prepare those for it by The Holy Spirit. How can we know this? Because if everyone... is beheaded during the tribulation, would there be any of us...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    You're getting into more than one topic there. The event of the daily sacrifice being taken away and the abomination of desolation IDOL being setup in a new temple in Jerusalem for the end is one of the SIGNS of the 'end' that Lord Jesus commanded us to be watching. It is Matthew 24:15. That...
  8. SetFree

    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    No one can... know the "day" nor "hour" of Jesus' coming. What Lord Jesus is pointing to is a date. Does anyone, or can anyone know that? Of course not. But we can... know the SIGNS of the end leading up to the day of His return, because those SIGNS He gave us. And that is especially what His...
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    Proof of God For Science Types

    That Hebrews 11:3 verse PROVES God's existence beyond all doubt, simply because it is a SCIENTIFIC PROOF against MATERIALIST THEORIES against the existence of another dimension of Spirit. It PROVES the existence of ANOTHER DIMENSION other than the material universe! ("God is a Spirit" according...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    Revelation 20:1-5 reveals that CHRIST HAD RETURNED by that point, and BEGAN His 1,000 years reign with His elect, with Satan being cast and sealed into the bottomless pit for the 1,000 years. That is the FIRST DAY of Christ's future reign. It is revealing the resurrection that will only happen...
  11. SetFree

    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    And I told you, as per Bible Scripture. Well, yes it does... wrongly teach 2 separate comings by Christ at the end of this world, the first one PRIOR to the "great tribulation" (pre-tribbers call the 'rapture'), and then Christ's return with His saints as the 'second coming'. That is TWO...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    I doubt you will understand this, but for some here that might begin to grasp it per what is written, I do it for them. Our Makeup: The first Biblical idea that one must... understand per God's Word, is about our spiritual makeup vs. our flesh body. The old Jewish traditions are against this...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    Those of the "first resurrection" are: 1. the Old Testament saints beheaded for The Word of God (OT patriarchs and prophets). 2. those beheaded for the Witness of Jesus (since Jesus died on the cross and through the great tribulation to the end of this world. 3. those who refused the mark of the...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    That's an old ploy the Pre-trib Rapture theory of men like to use, i.e., confuse the time of the future resurrection. The John 6:39 verse is only one proof, by Lord Jesus, that the future resurrection is on the LAST DAY of this present world, and certainly cannot be confused with some 'latter...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    Man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory is what wrongly teaches 2 comings by Lord Jesus at the end of this world, which is NOT written. That's the idea you are pointing to, which is not written in God's Word. Jesus comes only ONE TIME to gather His saints, and it will be AFTER... the tribulation...
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    Proof of God For Science Types

    Can't see the forest for the trees maybe? The Hebrews 11 Scripture I showed is not MY idea. It is The Word of God. All I did was reveal how it PROVES God's existence even with declaring GOD's LAW that He set for this present world, that matter can neither be created nor destroyed, showing...
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    Christians and War.

    Russia doesn't have much land good for producing crops like the Western nations have. Ukraine is an area of high wheat production. So that's one of the main reasons Russia doesn't want to lose control of it. Another reason, which few don't know about, is that during WWII the 'big 3' (FDR...
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    Is Matthew 24:3-14 coming true?

    I suggest you quit listening to men, and stay with what God's Word teaches as written. Jesus showed His coming to gather His saints is AFTER the tribulation (Matthew 29-31 and Mark 13:24-27). And that is actually aligned with what Apostle Paul taught in 1 Thessalonians 4 about the "caught up"...
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    creation story

    Why would wanting to know what's in God's Power to create the animal kingdom be so important? Moses said God created, and that's enough for me. I don't have to know 'how' just so I can try to fight off evolutionists who try to claim knowledge of God's Power when they don't have a clue.
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