Adam and Eve

Jazzy said:

Which sin did Adam and Eve commit?

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God said they could do pretty much anything they wanted except eat the forbidden fruit, and they ate the forbidden fruit. So there was only one rule in existence, and they broke it.

Both Eve and Adam sinned against God in eating of the fruit.

(Gen. 3:13) "...And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

(Gen. 3:12) "...she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

(Gen. 2:17) "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

So, both were guilty of sinning against God. Both died that day. Eve first.

Lees

Odë:hgöd said:

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According to Rom 4:15 & Rom 5:13, sins don't go on the books when no rule has
been broken.

For example: God took Eve to task for persuading her husband to taste the forbidden
fruit, but He couldn't indict her for that because up till then it wasn't forbidden to cause
someone to stumble.

God took Adam to task for following his wife's lead. But there again God couldn't
indict him for that because up till then it wasn't forbidden to marginalize God.
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That is incorrect.

Adam and Eve were under law. (Gen. 2:17) "Thou shalt not eat"

As a result of Adam sinning against God, sin entered the world and death passed upon all men born of Adam and Eve. (Rom. 5:12)

Once Adam sinned, that law, "Thou shalt not eat", was done away. Man was now a sinner. The earth was under a curse. (Gen. 3:17) Woman would in sorrow bear children. (3:16) Man would have to labor to obtain food. (3:19) Man was ousted from the garden. (3:23-24) Access to the garden was denied forever. (3:24) In other words, everything changed. That law in the garden was no more as man had no access to it and that is where the tree of knowledge of good and evil were located, as well as the tree of life.

Now Adam and Eve and their posterity would be sinners born under no law. Their conscience was now awakened since they sinned. (Gen. 3:22) They now knew good and evil. Thus man now walked only by his conscience. Which of course would help bring about the flood of Noah's day.

Lees

Jazzy said:

Which sin did Adam and Eve commit?

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Self-centered rebellion against their Creator's rulership, and all humans have followed their lead unless Jesus rescues them.

Lamb said:

True, it's the people who are still like Adam & Eve that don't think they need God and His salvation.

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I agree, but God can soften their hearts to believe through our witnessing to them about God's work in our lives, which is what he has called believers to do.

Odë:hgöd said:

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According to Rom 4:15 & Rom 5:13, sins don't go on the books when no rule has
been broken.

For example: God took Eve to task for persuading her husband to taste the forbidden
fruit, but He couldn't indict her for that because up till then it wasn't forbidden to cause
someone to stumble.

God took Adam to task for following his wife's lead. But there again God couldn't
indict him for that because up till then it wasn't forbidden to marginalize God.
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Well, God kicked them out of the garden because they did something wrong, that is, disobeying his specific command about the fruit of that tree that he knew would cause them to be controlled by evil.

Jazzy said:

Which sin did Adam and Eve commit?

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They didnt obey God and because of them we all die

denise said:

They didnt obey God and because of them we all die

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True.

TO ALL

Which sin did Adam and Eve commit? Reading several posts above, I think they were not enough to clarify what really hapenned with Adam and Eve . A few days ago I was on the site friendsofjesus.proboards, and I read a message posted by a brother in Christ about Eve and Adam, and the tree of good and evil, as follows:

Feb 24, 2025 at 12:14am brotherjacob said:
THE THREE TREES (A devotional)

There existed three trees. Three trees with three meanings. Three destinies for all of mankind. What are those three trees?

The first two trees were in the Garden of Eden. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Tree of Life. The Tree of the knowledge of Good and evil was a prohibited tree. Enoch describes the tree as somewhat like a tamarind tree with great fragrance and fruit resembling fine grapes (Book of Enoch 31:4). This tree became like a tree of death. Why? Because our ancestors, Adam and Eve partook of the fruit and brought sin and death into this world.
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Dear brother Jacob

To say "the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is like a tamarind tree with great fragrance and fruit resembling fine grapes (Book of Enoch 31:4)", it is a MYTH, and has nothing to do with the Word of GOD. You made your comment based on a MYTH, so what you commented on is also a myth, in the language of JESUS, that is tares.

GOD said: --> Genesis 3:22-24 combined with 2:17->17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3:22-24:--> 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the MAN is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: ... --> So, we cannot eat of the Word of GOD, GOD is life, the Word is GOD, and JESUS is the tree of life, and also to eat of the tree of good and evil, like the MYTH above of Enoch about a tamarind tree.

Genesis 3:1-6 -->1 Now the serpent (the MAN OF SIN that deceive the world as whole) was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord GOD had made. And he (the MAN of sin) said unto the woman, Yea, hath GOD said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent ,(unto the MAN of sin) We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, GOD hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent (the MAN of sin, now the red Dragon-Revelation 12:9) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For GOD doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food(knowing good and evil), and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise(knowing good and evil), she took of the fruit thereof (today, doctrines of demons, false interpretations of the Word of GOD, etc.-2Corinthians 11:13-15, for example, take a look), and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 3:12-15

12 And the man said to GOD:-> The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree(of the MAN of sin), and I did eat.

13 And the Lord GOD said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent (the MAN of sin) beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord GOD said unto the serpent(unto THE MAN of sin), Because thou hast done this, thou art CURSED ... upon thy belly shalt thou go -->(What is born of the man of sin is made from the dust of the earth, is earthly, like Cain-John 3:31 combined with 1John 3:12, take a look), and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (Meditate / reflect on this to understand better: Revelation 12:4 --> and the dragon(Revelation 12:9, take a look) stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (This terrible and evil and satanic scenary occurred with the mankind in these last 6000 years, since the birth of Cain, but in this specific case of Revelation 12:4, GOD caught up unto Him the man child, and to his throne(GOD's throne?Psalms 97:2 combined with Psalms 89:14, take a look, and John 1:11-14).


Who was born only from the dust, the dust is the main food of the Devil, so except JESUS all were born from the dust of the earth, and were swallowed by the old Serpent since the birth.

(NOTE: I have written all the things above because of the readers and to discernment of each one of them).

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen

posted at Feb 26, 2025 at 12:18am - take a look

Oseas3 said:

Which sin did Adam and Eve commit? Reading several posts above, I think they were not enough to clarify what really hapenned with Adam and Eve .

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What really happened with Adam and Eve consisted of more than just the sin they committed (disobeying God's rules about what was right and wrong and deciding right and wrong for themselves, effectively putting their own will above God and in his place) but the results -consequences- that came from that decision.

Most of the various pastors and Christian thinkers I've talked to over the years seem to think this tree that Adam decided to partake of is really not a real tree but a symbolic representation of something else less material, but I would ask you to consider something in light of the knowledge God has revealed to us through science in our times: Perhaps that tree was actually a real tree that was forbidden since it contained a mutagenic compound in its fruit that would alter the perfect genetics of Adam in such a manner that Man, who was not designed to die, would now die and pass this genetic alteration along to his offspring.

This result of Adam's sin is not passed along by the female X chromosome but through the male Y one, making the Sin of Adam the sin of Adam and not the sin of Eve.

Now this is just something to think about, and think about in relation to other parts of the Scripture of the Bible, including why Jesus had to have God as his direct father instead of simply having his spirit come into some newly conceived child with earthly parents, as well as how sin is passed from one generation to the next and what the glorified bodies of the resurrection will have to be like to return us to that which God intended for us when he first formed us out of the dust of the earth.

Again, not claiming this to be a truth but just something to consider while looking for the Truth.

Frankj said:

What really happened with Adam and Eve consisted of more than just the sin they committed (disobeying God's rules about what was right and wrong and deciding right and wrong for themselves, effectively putting their own will above God and in his place) but the results -consequences- that came from that decision.

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Thank you for your reply.

Yes, and as we know, what happened around 6000 years ago, the man and the woman, they continues doing the same, except JESUS, all generations were born from the Devil, were born from the dust, and spiritually they were swallowed by the Devil. After around four thousand years, already in the fourth Day, I mean 4000 years after Adam, and after the satanic event of Genesis 3:1, our Lord JESUS said to the Jews: John 8:44-> Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth(GOD is Truth, JESUS is Truth), because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
By the way, based in the words of our Lord JESUS, here His revelation above gives us understanding of the why Adam and Eve sewed FIG LEAVES together, and made themselves aprons. Matthew 21:19-20:-> 19 And when JESUS saw a FIG TREE in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
In the other hand, GOD replaced the aprons of fig leaves that the Devil provided for Adam and Eve, and unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord GOD make coats of skins(I think skins of lamb), and clothed them-Genesis 3:21. It's it.

Paul Apostle wrote: 2Corinthians 11:3
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his SUBTILTY(astuteness, craftiness, guile), so your MINDS should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Frankj said:

Most of the various pastors and Christian thinkers I've talked to over the years seem to think this tree that Adam decided to partake of is really not a real tree but a symbolic representation of something else less material, but I would ask you to consider something in light of the knowledge God has revealed to us through science in our times: Perhaps that tree was actually a real tree that was forbidden since it contained a mutagenic compound in its fruit that would alter the perfect genetics of Adam in such a manner that Man, who was not designed to die, would now die and pass this genetic alteration along to his offspring.

This result of Adam's sin is not passed along by the female X chromosome but through the male Y one, making the Sin of Adam the sin of Adam and not the sin of Eve.

Now this is just something to think about, and think about in relation to other parts of the Scripture of the Bible, including why Jesus had to have God as his direct father instead of simply having his spirit come into some newly conceived child with earthly parents, as well as how sin is passed from one generation to the next and what the glorified bodies of the resurrection will have to be like to return us to that which God intended for us when he first formed us out of the dust of the earth.

Again, not claiming this to be a truth but just something to consider while looking for the Truth.

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What you are saying above, is exactly what happened in Genesis 3:1, and the MIND of Eve was CORRUPTED by the interpretation the Devil, the MAN of sin, now red Dragon-Revelation 12:9, did give her.

Like Eve, you, according to your words above, you saw that the tree is good for food(knowing good and evil), and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise(knowing good and evil), so you took of the fruit thereof (today, doctrines of demons, false interpretations of the Word of GOD, etc.-2Corinthians 11:13-15, for example, take a look), and did eat, and try to give me also, but I don't eat of what you have offered tgo me. It is to death, it's MORTAL.

As Paul Apostle wrote: 2Corinthians 11:3
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his SUBTILTY(astuteness, craftiness, guile), so your MINDS should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

And James in his epistle, wrote: James 3:5-6:
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD the Father, GOD Himself, SELF-EXECUTING/ executable.

Frankj said:

What really happened with Adam and Eve consisted of more than just the sin they committed (disobeying God's rules about what was right and wrong and deciding right and wrong for themselves, effectively putting their own will above God and in his place) but the results -consequences- that came from that decision.

Most of the various pastors and Christian thinkers I've talked to over the years seem to think this tree that Adam decided to partake of is really not a real tree but a symbolic representation of something else less material, but I would ask you to consider something in light of the knowledge God has revealed to us through science in our times: Perhaps that tree was actually a real tree that was forbidden since it contained a mutagenic compound in its fruit that would alter the perfect genetics of Adam in such a manner that Man, who was not designed to die, would now die and pass this genetic alteration along to his offspring.

This result of Adam's sin is not passed along by the female X chromosome but through the male Y one, making the Sin of Adam the sin of Adam and not the sin of Eve.

Now this is just something to think about, and think about in relation to other parts of the Scripture of the Bible, including why Jesus had to have God as his direct father instead of simply having his spirit come into some newly conceived child with earthly parents, as well as how sin is passed from one generation to the next and what the glorified bodies of the resurrection will have to be like to return us to that which God intended for us when he first formed us out of the dust of the earth.

Again, not claiming this to be a truth but just something to consider while looking for the Truth.

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We need to interpret the universe in the light of the Bible's truths instead of the other way around. In other words, you and the preachers you have listened to use the findings (perhaps) of science to interpret the Bible, which is a wrong approach to it. We must interpret the Bible according its own meanings and assumptions, not people's extra-biblical ideas. Why? Because it's God's inspired Word.