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Why do you not think that the Spirit would infallibly guide a bishop or any teacher?
Any leading of the Spirit would be true but humans still just see thru a foggy mirror. Still having to muddle thru knowledge of good and evil, ,, so no teaching could be infallable I would think.
 

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Any leading of the Spirit would be true but humans still just see thru a foggy mirror. Still having to muddle thru knowledge of good and evil, ,, so no teaching could be infallable I would think.

Are the holy scriptures not infallibly true?
 

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Are the holy scriptures not infallibly true?
What does that have to do with Bishop's being infallable.?

Scriptures is true of God, true of mankind and true of satan. They are there for instruction, God-breathed and contain life giving words. It's the only book God has claimed to be inspiried by the Holy Spirit. Why would it be fallible?
 

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What does that have to do with Bishop's being infallable.?

You concluded your previous post with the words so no teaching could be infallible I would think. Yet the holy scriptures were written by the hands of men and are regarded as infallible by many Christians. That is why I asked Are the holy scriptures not infallibly true? I asked because I wanted to know if you teach that the holy scriptures are infallibly true and if you do teach that then is your teaching not also infallible on that matter?

Scriptures is true of God, true of mankind and true of Satan. They are there for instruction, God-breathed and contain life giving words. It's the only book God has claimed to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Why would it be fallible?

I can see that you do teach that the holy scriptures are infallible.

Anything that is true is by the fact of being true also infallible. If it were fallible then it would not be true, right?
 

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You concluded your previous post with the words so no teaching could be infallible I would think. Yet the holy scriptures were written by the hands of men and are regarded as infallible by many Christians.



Most Christians don't have a problem with regarding God's literal, objective, written words as infallible/unaccountable; many Protestant Christians even believe that GOD is smarter than any single person or denomination (even the current RC's bishop in Rome!!! Even THAT single man!) and GOD just might know MORE about the things of God than any person (even the current bishop of the individual RC Denomination in the diocese of Rome, Italy)!


I think the "problem" is when Jim Jones or Joseph Smith or Mary Baker Eddy or Pope Francis or you or me or the RCC or the EOC or the LDS or the JW or the UPC or the LCMS or any other fallen/sinful human/mortal person or denomination simply declares that there is ONE (just one) who uniquely IS smarter than God, who uniquely IS infallible/unaccountable, who IS one to explain away and destroy the Mysteries of God, who IS the one God must submit to as that One corrects and completes what God stated in His Holy Written Word, ONE who IS the Mouth of God, the ONE infallible/all-powerful Authority to which all (including God) must submit by agreeing to - and that ONE is (hold on for it)..... SELF. THAT, my Catholic brother, is the problem.




That is why I asked Are the holy scriptures not infallibly true?


Again, no one has a problem with GOD being regarded as infallible/unaccountable. The absurdity is when Jim Jones or Joseph Smith or Mary Baker Eddy or the LDS or the RCC or the UPC or any fallen/limited/sinful HUMAN individual person or denomination insists that SELF alone and uniquely is equal to God and actually trumps God. It requires a lot of ego for some denomination to insists, "I'M uniquely infallible/unaccountable because God is." Yet that IS the foundation of the RCC and LDS (as well as by every "cult" known to me - not saying the RCC or LDS are cults, only that they share this one characteristic with them). THAT, my Catholic brother, is the issue.



"We are stewards of the mysteries of God."
Steward: Caretaker, protector
Mystery: Something unknown and/or unknowable


A steward of the mysteries of God protects and cares for the mysteries of God - those things we do not (cannot?) understand/comprehend.
The verse you quoted does NOT say that one person or denomination is the infallible/unaccountable destroyer of the Mysteries of God.


It requires HUMILITY. The acceptance that God may just be smarter than we are, God may just know more about the things of God than self does, the willingness to shut up about things not known or understood.

The Roman Catholic Denomination (the prime characteristic of such being incredible egoism and quest for power and lordship) has simply insisted that there is ONE who is smarter than God, that knows more about God than God does, that has been appointed by it itself to correct what God has said in Scripture, to EXPLAIN AWAY the mysteries since God did not: It Itself, the RC Denomination, it claims for itself. It comes up with these theories, opinions, speculations (often from pagan philosophy or pre-science fallacies) then declares such makes sense to it itself uniquely and so much be DOGMA that God in heaven is required to accept because it itself uniquely can't be wrong and thus God must agree with It Itself or God would be wrong. It's how the RC Denomination has come up with DOGMAS like Transubstantiation, Purgatory, the Infallible RCC Bishop in Rome.... well, all the dogmas unique to the RC Denomination, all the teachings that are distinctive of that singular denomination. THAT, my Catholic brother and friend, is the problem.




Thank you.


- Josiah



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