World Should we be afraid?

[tango]

People hate it when they lose. It is called the agony of defeat. I did not vote for Donald Trump, and did not want to see him win. But, he won. I am not going to protest that because it does no change the fact. Now if it was possible for a protest to change the outcome of the election, I would be all for it. But, the fact that it does not change anything makes protesting the win pointless,and ridiculous.

It's understandable that people are unhappy when they lose. Personally I couldn't help thinking that whoever won the election was going to represent a loss. Of the two major candidates I'd have reluctantly voted for Trump simply because I think he'll make a better president than Clinton would have done (but I say that in the same context as I'd say having two broken legs is better than having a massive heart attack).

What I find really ironic is the way that before the election the noise was about Trump and his supporters not accepting the result if Clinton won while Clinton and her supporters said (entirely reasonably) that the result is the result and had to be accepted. But now Trump has won his supporters who talked about not accepting if he lost are saying Clinton supporters have to just accept it, while the Clinton supporters don't want to accept it.

Somehow I suspect the vast majority accept the results and just want to move on, and as usual it's just a relatively small number of vocal whingers (who exist on both sides of the political spectrum) making a lot of noise and thinking that their numbers actually mean something. A million people protesting represent a very small percentage of people who voted and, even considering that people who voted for Trump are unlikely to line the streets protesting his inauguration, a million protestors are still a very small percentage of the people who voted for Clinton.

 

[Brighten04]

It's understandable that people are unhappy when they lose. Personally I couldn't help thinking that whoever won the election was going to represent a loss. Of the two major candidates I'd have reluctantly voted for Trump simply because I think he'll make a better president than Clinton would have done (but I say that in the same context as I'd say having two broken legs is better than having a massive heart attack).

What I find really ironic is the way that before the election the noise was about Trump and his supporters not accepting the result if Clinton won while Clinton and her supporters said (entirely reasonably) that the result is the result and had to be accepted. But now Trump has won his supporters who talked about not accepting if he lost are saying Clinton supporters have to just accept it, while the Clinton supporters don't want to accept it.

Somehow I suspect the vast majority accept the results and just want to move on, and as usual it's just a relatively small number of vocal whingers (who exist on both sides of the political spectrum) making a lot of noise and thinking that their numbers actually mean something. A million people protesting represent a very small percentage of people who voted and, even considering that people who voted for Trump are unlikely to line the streets protesting his inauguration, a million protestors are still a very small percentage of the people who voted for Clinton.

Yeah, I remember the Tea Party rallies that went on and on to no avail after former President Obama's legitimate win. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[tango]

Yeah, I remember the Tea Party rallies that went on and on to no avail after former President Obama's legitimate win. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

When Obama was first elected it was hard to know whether there was a credible concern about his birth place or whether it was driven by racism or an unwillingness to accept that McCain lost the election. If there is a credible concern whether a candidate is even qualified to be president one would hope it would be raised and formally settled before they were even allowed to become a candidate, and I vaguely remember questions being asked about just what would happen had it been proven that he wasn't born within the US.

Back then, as now, it seems the majority of people who didn't vote for the successful candidate basically got on with their lives knowing they didn't get their candidate into the White House.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Donald Trump is not qualified to be in the Whitehouse.

 

[tango]

Donald Trump is not qualified to be in the Whitehouse.

So you keep saying but your endless assertions don't change the fact that he is in the White House. You'd be better off dealing with it than endlessly repeating that you don't think he should be there.

 

[tango]

Actually, given he won a majority of the electoral college votes, he is qualified to be in the White House.

 

[Brighten04]

Back then, as now, it seems the majority of people who didn't vote for the successful candidate basically got on with their lives knowing they didn't get their candidate into the White House.

Eventually it did quiet down, but some media sources continued to squeal the entire two terms.

 

[MoreCoffee]

So you keep saying but your endless assertions don't change the fact that he is in the White House. You'd be better off dealing with it than endlessly repeating that you don't think he should be there.

Repeated but not endless. I reckon you're given to exaggeration

 

[tango]

Repeated but not endless. I reckon you're given to exaggeration

Sorry, sometimes it seems like the record is stuck. That's all

 

[MoreCoffee]

Mexico US relations are declining. Who next?

 

[psalms 91]

Better hope it isnt China

 

[MoreCoffee]

Better hope it isnt China

Could be Europe, Donald Trump has already complained about NATO and that's mainly Europe.

 

[psalms 91]

At least they wont recall our debt

 

[MoreCoffee]

Doesn't the USA owe a lot of money to Germany?

 

[tango]

Could be Europe, Donald Trump has already complained about NATO and that's mainly Europe.

What's his complaint about NATO, and does he have a valid point to make?

Maybe he's just being a windbag (surely not!) but maybe he does have a valid issue that could be addressed. There's a world of difference between "relations declining" over an actual disagreement where one side has a fair complaint and "relations declining" over something silly. In simplistic terms if my relationship with my next door neighbor declines because his kids make a noise when they are playing and I expect silence that's very different to my relationship with my next door neighbor declining because his kids kicked their ball through my window and he doesn't think he should have to pay for it, his dog defecates all over my lawn and his guests park their cars on my driveway because his is full.

 

[psalms 91]

He has a valid point in terms of them carrying their share of the financial burden but truth is that we need them so doubt much happens on that front