World Should we be afraid?

[MoreCoffee]

What revolution are you referring to?

I don't know but there always seems to be one in the air

 

[tango]

Donald Trump has been President of the USA for scarcely a day and there's already protests in Europe.

A protest this early is likely to be little more than a tantrum.

 

[MoreCoffee]

A protest this early is likely to be little more than a tantrum.

A tantrum? Many thousands or perhaps millions of people having one at the same time in the same places?

 

[Josiah]

Donald Trump has been President of the USA for scarcely a day and there's already protests in Europe.

Revealing the stupidity of some. And sorry, but generally it's none of their business. I can't think of a single protest in the USA when some civil leader is chosen in Denmark or Australia or UK or even in Japan or India or Russia. Soverign democratic nations generally have the right to choose their own government and leaders.

 

[~Jo~]

Dont see any point worrying about what you can't do anything about really, what will be will be I guess. I'm not sure even trump is that mad enough to push the button on the world. Well let's hope not its come close with other nuts in power tho...

 

[tango]

A tantrum? Many thousands or perhaps millions of people having one at the same time in the same places?

Yes, people having a tantrum that the candidate they preferred lost.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yes, people having a tantrum that the candidate they preferred lost.

lost the electoral collage yet won the popular vote by about three million votes.

 

[tango]

lost the electoral collage yet won the popular vote by about three million votes.

Irrelevant, that's how the system works and for good reason.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Irrelevant, that's how the system works and for good reason.

Maybe it isn't going to affect the election result but it is relevant to how many people will be out protesting against Donald Trump's maladroit political comments and speeches.

 

[tango]

Maybe it isn't going to affect the election result but it is relevant to how many people will be out protesting against Donald Trump's maladroit political comments and speeches.

Do you really think the rent-a-mob protesters would act any differently had Trump also won the popular vote?

 

[Josiah]

lost the electoral collage yet won the popular vote by about three million votes.

Irrelevant. And I doubt Trump would be viewed as less negative to you had he won the popular vote.

AGAIN, my Australian friend obviously uninformed about the USA, all presidental elections in US history have been directed toward winning the election - with happens when the electors from each state cast their vote. NO ONE in the entire history of the United States of America has ever - not once, not ever - has EVER even sought to win the popular election. NO candidate - in ANY election, ever - has conducted their campaign to win the wrong election (the popular) because they've all read the USA Constitution and know the process. I know you don't know our process - and frankly, there's no reason why you should since you are an Australian and should know how your Queen and PM comes to power (neither of which is by national popular vote, either). Yes, HAD Trump conducted his campaign wrongly, incorrectly, perhaps because he was an Australian and knew nothing about how the USA chooses our president - maybe he would have won the popluar vote rather than the vote that counts. But that's not what happened. Because Trump - like EVERY candidate for president in US history (including Hilary Clinton) KNEW to conduct his campaign to win the vote that counts.

You've been informed of this over and over but.... You seem very angry that the USA doesn't pick any of our national leaders by national popular vote - but of course, your country doesn't either so here too, the proverb "Physician, heal thyself" seems to apply to your posts..... Jesus' log/speck comes to mind as I try to think of ANY country that chose Elizabeth as the Queen by popular majority vote. Or any PM.



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[MoreCoffee]

Do you really think the rent-a-mob protesters would act any differently had Trump also won the popular vote?

I do not think that they are rent-mobs. It's kind of insulting to them to imply that they are.

 

[tango]

I do not think that they are rent-mobs. It's kind of insulting to them to imply that they are.

I think rent-a-mob sums up many protesters very well.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I think rent-a-mob sums up many protesters very well.

Somebody is paying a lot of rent! There were hundreds of thousands at some of those protests and a total in the millions.

 

[tango]

Somebody is paying a lot of rent! There were hundreds of thousands at some of those protests and a total in the millions.

We know that some 60m+ people voted for Hillary Clinton. Protesting the inauguration of the guy who won the election is pretty pointless - an election was held and Donald Trump won it. Having won the election the next step is he gets inaugurated as President. Regardless of what we think of Donald Trump the fact is that he won the election and therefore takes office.

It's hardly surprising that people across other countries didn't want to see him, the vote was fairly evenly split in the US (most elections seem to see a split within a couple of percentage points of 50-50) and the chances are if people in other nations got a vote they'd vote in similar proportions (in the UK the Brexit vote won 52-48%).

 

[MoreCoffee]

The protests were not "rent a crowd".

 

[tango]

The protests were not "rent a crowd".

Endless protestations against an inauguration are little more than rent-a-mob protesting. When a candidate wins an election the next step is the inauguration. Sure, we get it, millions of people voted for the other candidate. Hillary Clinton lost the election and so Donald Trump was inaugurated. Protesting the inauguration makes no more sense than protesting the sun rising in the morning. Had Hillary Clinton won the election it would be equally pointless for Trump supports to protest her inauguration.

 

[psalms 91]

Endless protestations against an inauguration are little more than rent-a-mob protesting. When a candidate wins an election the next step is the inauguration. Sure, we get it, millions of people voted for the other candidate. Hillary Clinton lost the election and so Donald Trump was inaugurated. Protesting the inauguration makes no more sense than protesting the sun rising in the morning. Had Hillary Clinton won the election it would be equally pointless for Trump supports to protest her inauguration.

As far as I can tell it is not Trump perse they protested but rather what he has stated will be his policies

 

[tango]

As far as I can tell it is not Trump perse they protested but rather what he has stated will be his policies

Hard to tell the difference really. They didn't like his stated policies so presumably they voted for one of the other candidates. There's not much point assembling to say they dislike his stated policies when they already had a chance to cast a vote.

If they voted against him they have to accept they lost. If they didn't vote there's really no point protesting. If they voted for him and believe his stated policies are substantially different from the platform they voted for then perhaps there's a value in protesting. Otherwise we should expect to see huge protests at every future inauguration, from the millions of people who voted for the other candidates and don't want this candidate to be inaugurated.

 

[Brighten04]

People hate it when they lose. It is called the agony of defeat. I did not vote for Donald Trump, and did not want to see him win. But, he won. I am not going to protest that because it does no change the fact. Now if it was possible for a protest to change the outcome of the election, I would be all for it. But, the fact that it does not change anything makes protesting the win pointless,and ridiculous.