edge browser

[MS140ukn]

after latest update not only to the OS but to edge, the browser has been experiencing some moments of page glitches. most of them is when i visit deviantart. "page unresponsive" and few times on certain news sites. so much so that iam relying on my other 2 browsers to get on forums. anyone else experience same thing?

 

[MoreCoffee]

after latest update not only to the OS but to edge, the browser has been experiencing some moments of page glitches. most of them is when i visit deviantart. "page unresponsive" and few times on certain news sites. so much so that iam relying on my other 2 browsers to get on forums. anyone else experience same thing?

I am using Microsoft Edge 38.14393.0.0 have you checked your version?

 

[MS140ukn]

i never check...where do i see which version it is?

 

[MoreCoffee]

i never check...where do i see which version it is?

"Settings" in the "hamburger menu"

 

[MS140ukn]

i saw it. its same version. odd..

 

[MarkFL]

I've never tried Edge, mainly because my experience with IE as a troublesome browser that does not follow W3C compliance has made me wary of any browser from MS. My advice is to steer clear of any MS browser, and use a modern browser instead.

 

[MS140ukn]

yes, iam doing just that. i hate IE..and edge in my opinion is almost mimics that of IE. hopefully others will have same reaction.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I've never tried Edge, mainly because my experience with IE as a troublesome browser that does not follow W3C compliance has made me wary of any browser from MS. My advice is to steer clear of any MS browser, and use a modern browser instead.

Edge is "modern". I use Chrome quite often on my PC because I have 16 GB of RAM but on my tablet Edge is far better.

 

[MS140ukn]

i wish i could revert back to previous edge version before the update...but that would mean i would lose last pass and adblock.

 

[MarkFL]

Edge is "modern". I use Chrome quite often on my PC because I have 16 GB of RAM but on my tablet Edge is far better.

By modern, I mean W3C compliant, not released recently.

MS apparently doesn't feel the need to comply with the standards most others follow. And so coders are left to either write separate code to deal with their lack of compliance, or decide not to support non-compliant browsers. I now choose the latter.

 

[MarkFL]

yes, iam doing just that. i hate IE..and edge in my opinion is almost mimics that of IE. hopefully others will have same reaction.

Yes, from what I've heard, Edge suffers from the same deficiencies as IE.

 

[MoreCoffee]

By modern, I mean W3C compliant, not released recently.

MS apparently doesn't feel the need to comply with the standards most others follow. And so coders are left to either write separate code to deal with their lack of compliance, or decide not to support non-compliant browsers. I now choose the latter.

A legitimate perspective to hold is "standards are not worth the effort needed for adherence", maybe W3C's idea of web standards is askew.

 

[MarkFL]

A legitimate perspective to hold is "standards are not worth the effort needed for adherence", maybe W3C's idea of web standards is askew.

The thing is, web coders need for there to be some kind of standard to be used, otherwise separate code has to be written for each browser. It's sort of like standards of measurement, where MS is like the U.S. in feeling they fill their britches so fully that they can use their own standards, even if that means a translation has to be made between them and those who comply.

 

[Lamb]

I have the Edge browser but only use it maybe once a week very briefly. So far I've had no failures or stalls with it. Maybe I should use it more to see if it happens to me as well?

 

[MoreCoffee]

The thing is, web coders need for there to be some kind of standard to be used, otherwise separate code has to be written for each browser. It's sort of like standards of measurement, where MS is like the U.S. in feeling they fill their britches so fully that they can use their own standards, even if that means a translation has to be made between them and those who comply.

The USA does do its own thing about weights and measures. Is that bad? It may be inconvenient, but then the French also did their own thing when they invented new weights and measures in the late 18th century as part of their revolution.

As it is every browser implements HTML, CSS, and JS in its own way to varying degrees. Coders are forced to include extras for each browser if their pages use elements where the browsers differ. Most coders are saved from some difficulties by using tools that automatically generate browser specific variations if one selects the target(s) in the web-development tool being used for coding.

 

[MarkFL]

All I can tell you is that when I implement W3C CSS, Firefox and Chrome work beautifully, and IE pukes much of the time. So, I conclude that IE is the odd man out.

 

[MoreCoffee]

All I can tell you is that when I implement W3C CSS, Firefox and Chrome work beautifully, and IE pukes much of the time. So, I conclude that IE is the odd man out.

IE is deprecated now, Edge is not the same thing as IE.

 

[MarkFL]

IE is deprecated now, Edge is not the same thing as IE.

From what I have read, Edge suffers the same lack of standards compliance, however I don't know that from personal experience, nor will I be finding out. If my code happens to also work in Edge then great, if not, I won't be making any effort to support it. If more coders would take this stance, then these deficient browsers would go away more quickly.

 

[MoreCoffee]

From what I have read, Edge suffers the same lack of standards compliance, however I don't know that from personal experience, nor will I be finding out. If my code happens to also work in Edge then great, if not, I won't be making any effort to support it. If more coders would take this stance, then these deficient browsers would go away more quickly.

I presume that you're coding for non-windows platforms mainly?

 

[MarkFL]

I presume that you're coding for non-windows platforms mainly?

No, I am doing only web coding now. I only have to worry about server side (PHP) and client side (CSS/javascript). PHP is consistent across servers (the only variance is the version running), but on the client side, browsers that don't follow standards are a problem. Since I am on no one's payroll, I am free to choose not to support such browsers. :thumbsup: