My Choice for President

[Josiah]

Yesterday, The Donald said that when he feels under pressure.... when he's juggling several things..... he says things that hurt people. He admitted he does that. And he sorta.... kinda.... almost..... apologized for the countless times he does that. Of course, there's a problem here: in the many, many, many, many, many times he's said thoughtless, stupid, flaming, hurtful things - he DEFENDED it. So I wonder if these were fleeting moments of weakness and stupidity.

But I think he very accurately articulated a very fundamental reason why he is so disqualified to be President. A man would would be the President of the country with the biggest economy and military..... the man with his finger on a button that can destroy the Earth in hours.... can't control himself. Wars have been started over leaders saying things. We can't have a man telling world leaders stupid, thoughtless, flaming, hurtful, dangerous things because he feels under pressure or has a lot he's dealing with - stuff he later will DEFEND but maybe months or years later will admit was... well..... an indication of his weakness and inadequacy.

Trump needs to resign, and suggest the Republican Party make the VP choice the Presidential one. He has admitted his gross inability to serve as President of the most powerful nation on earth, in history.




- Josiah, a strong conservative and registered Republican who has never voted for a Dem in his life.






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[MarkFL]

Yes, it is exactly this kind of "loose cannon" behavior I have been concerned about as well. I can look past his greatly exaggerated business acumen, but we simply can't have someone who has no impulse control as commander in chief.

 

[Josiah]

Yes, it is exactly this kind of "loose cannon" behavior I have been concerned about as well. I can look past his greatly exaggerated business acumen, but we simply can't have someone who has no impulse control as commander in chief.

.... he's now admitted it. And sort of, kind of, in a way, apologized for this deep flaw, this great inadequacy. Problem is: previously, he has defended all these stupid, dangerous, hurtful (and typically wrong) things he said. Greater problem is: It disqualifies him to be president.

 

[Josiah]

Every presidential candidate for decades has made public his/her tax stuff for the past several years. Last time, Romney hesitated - making silly excuses, trying to stall - and (note this) the LOUD critic of that was (hold on to your hat) Donald Trump. Trump shouted in his loud style of how Romney MUST disclose ALL his tax returns immediately. And Romney then did (due mostly to all the NOISE Trump made over it). Turns out, there were no smoking guns, nothing condemning, only that Romney was richer than thought and gave more to charity than expected.

The very same Donald Trump now refuses to disclose his tax returns. He says he's being picked on by the IRS (seems LOTS are always pic'n on pur Donald - the world's unfair to him which is why he claims to be SO rich and successful) and he's under review (picked on) and so he won't disclose them. Hum. Besides the obvious hypocrisy, we have to wonder: what's there? What does he know would hurt his campaign?

Hillary has disclosed all hers. Turns out the Clintons have somehow become VERY, VERY rich..... and they only gave about 10% of their enormous wealth to charity, virtually all of it to their own charity: the Clinton Foundation. Funny how they talk so much about giving.... I think they mean TAKING from others and distributing it as THEY choose rather than the ones who earned the money.

Makes 'ya thenk.

 

[MoreCoffee]

How many USA people give 10% of their gross income to charities?

 

[Josiah]

Every presidential candidate for decades has made public his/her tax stuff for the past several years. Last time, Romney hesitated - making silly excuses, trying to stall - and (note this) the LOUD critic of that was (hold on to your hat) Donald Trump. Trump shouted in his loud style of how Romney MUST disclose ALL his tax returns immediately. And Romney then did (due mostly to all the NOISE Trump made over it). Turns out, there were no smoking guns, nothing condemning, only that Romney was richer than thought and gave more to charity than expected.

The very same Donald Trump now refuses to disclose his tax returns. He says he's being picked on by the IRS (seems LOTS are always pic'n on pur Donald - the world's unfair to him which is why he claims to be SO rich and successful) and he's under review (picked on) and so he won't disclose them. Hum. Besides the obvious hypocrisy, we have to wonder: what's there? What does he know would hurt his campaign?

Hillary has disclosed all hers. Turns out the Clintons have somehow become VERY, VERY rich..... and they only gave about 10% of their enormous wealth to charity, virtually all of it to their own charity: the Clinton Foundation. Funny how they talk so much about giving.... I think they mean TAKING from others and distributing it as THEY choose rather than the ones who earned the money.

Makes 'ya thenk.


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How many USA people give 10% of their gross income to charities?

Maybe it's selfishness that Trump doesn't want us to see..... But in any case, he's doing the OPPOSITE of what he so loudly demanded of Romney just 4 years ago, the OPPOSITE of what every presidential candidate for decades has done, the OPPOSITE of what Hillary has done - he insists on hiding his tax returns. What is it he doesn't want us to know about himself? What is he hiding? And despite his claims of all the press pic'n on pur him, notice - the press is letting him get away with this.



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[MarkFL]

.... he's now admitted it. And sort of, kind of, in a way, apologized for this deep flaw, this great inadequacy. Problem is: previously, he has defended all these stupid, dangerous, hurtful (and typically wrong) things he said. Greater problem is: It disqualifies him to be president.

I have grave doubts regarding the sincerity of such apologies, and think that his PR machine has directed him to do so in an effort to tweak his poll numbers. Even if he is sincere, you are right in that this disqualifies him from being a world leader. We can't have our president shooting off his mouth with no diplomacy to say whatever he pleases at the moment, only to apologize later...after the damage is done.

We need an adult in the White House, not some overgrown spoiled rich boy who's never had to watch his mouth before.

 

[Highlander]

We need to face the facts: There are only TWO -- and ONLY two -- possibilities for the white house in this election. We are either going to have Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in office. There are NO OTHER possibilities.

And I do believe that most sober minded, red blooded Americans would NOT want to have a career criminal and lethal failure, such as Hillary, in the oval office. Even if I hated Trump (which I do not), I would want to give an honest, successful businessman a chance to straighten the country out. We really have nothing to lose because Trump, at his absolute worst, could not be nearly as terminal to the USA as Hillary and her leftist views would be.

Trump has already started to become VERY presidential in his demeanor -- which proves that he CAN control his behavior as president. He is NOT disqualified for our highest office. It almost angers me to see talk of him being disqualified -- when the other party is pushing the most evil, corrupt candidate ever to run for POTUS.

Trump has been an iconic success in just about everything he has ever done. And, with our nation facing a long fall over the cliff, he provides the only type of ability and leadership that can restore the greatness to America.

If Hillary wins, the nation will not survive. The entire future history of the United States of America is hanging in the balance with this election. With Trump, we will hopefully regain our former greatness as future history writes about a moral nation that lights up the world of freedom.

With Hillary, that future history WILL continue what Obama has already brought us -- an ordinary nation that has no morals, spends itself into oblivion and loses its own light of freedom.

One or the other. You have NO other choice.

 

[Highlander]

You mean sending the USA to bankruptcy like he did with these businesses?

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(source)

No, I mean creating one of the largest corporations the world has ever seen and employing literally tens of thousands of people and helping them to become prosperous. Sorry if I confused you. LOL

 

[MoreCoffee]

No, I mean creating one of the largest corporations the world has ever seen and employing literally tens of thousands of people and helping them to become prosperous. Sorry if I confused you. LOL

Then you're not referring to Donald Trump. Maybe you're thinking of Bill Gates, Steve Jobs (now deceased), The government of China (People's Republic), the owners of Walmart, Sinopec Oil, or some similar large corporation?

 

[Lamb]

I watched Trump's speech the night before last (just for a bit) and it was hilarious that the subtitle by the news station was "Tump using teleprompter." What I heard was a man who was clear and concise on his plans without a lot of politic-speak. Although I don't agree with all his ideas, he has some great ones for the country.

Things I don't agree with - increasing Charter schools and the trade reform that seems too extreme (all countries would suffer if done too quickly).

 

[Highlander]

Then you're not referring to Donald Trump. Maybe you're thinking of Bill Gates, Steve Jobs (now deceased), The government of China (People's Republic), the owners of Walmart, Sinopec Oil, or some similar large corporation?

No, I mean creating one of the largest corporations the world has ever seen and employing literally tens of thousands of people and helping them to become prosperous. Sorry if I confused you. LOL

 

[MarkFL]

Then you're not referring to Donald Trump. Maybe you're thinking of Bill Gates, Steve Jobs (now deceased), The government of China (People's Republic), the owners of Walmart, Sinopec Oil, or some similar large corporation?

I think you'll have to widen your scope by at least two orders of magnitude to find Trump on any such list.

 

[MoreCoffee]

No, I mean creating one of the largest corporations the world has ever seen and employing literally tens of thousands of people and helping them to become prosperous. Sorry if I confused you. LOL

Nope, can't see Donald Trump anywhere on the list of the top 200 companies in the world.

 

[tango]

Yes, it is exactly this kind of "loose cannon" behavior I have been concerned about as well. I can look past his greatly exaggerated business acumen, but we simply can't have someone who has no impulse control as commander in chief.

I agree with you but at the same time don't see how we can have a commander in chief who even the FBI director said has played fast and loose with the rules regarding classified information. From what I saw of the FBI report into the email server issue anyone else would have faced sanctions (losing their security clearance at the very least) and yet for some reason they decided not to prosecute. And then it seems Hillary "misspoke" again when she said the FBI found she had been truthful.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Is it not the case that none of Hillary Clinton's emails from the email server fell into the hands of those who are opposed to USA interests?

 

[tango]

Is it not the case that none of Hillary Clinton's emails from the email server fell into the hands of those who are opposed to USA interests?

That's the sort of thing that may or may not ever be known. Even if it could be proven to be true the chances are it's the sort of thing that was a matter of luck as well as judgment. If I drink so much alcohol I can barely stand up and then drive past a school at 100mph at the time the children are let out from school, the fact that I didn't actually run over any children isn't going to carry much weight as a defense.

Truth be told that seems like the kind of distraction on a par with the whole Monica Lewinsky issue when Bill Clinton was President. It was a masterstroke (no pun intended) from his defense to turn the whole issue into just what Monica did under the desk in the Oval Office. The issue wasn't just what he and Monica got up to, that isn't really anyone's business except theirs (and arguably Hillary's), the issue was whether he lied under oath. Turning it into an issue of whether the intern got raunchy with the President just distracted from the issue of whether or not he committed perjury. From what I read of the FBI report it seemed to me like Hillary showed an unimaginable lack of good judgment, the inclination to lie brazenly (including under oath to Congress) to cover her trails and then to lie again when she claimed the FBI found she had been truthful. But all those things seem to be classed as little more than "misspeaking", like the time she apparently came under enemy fire in the Middle East only to later admit that she "misspoke" and hadn't actually come under fire at all.

You know, it's easy to make little mistakes, thinking you got shelled and ran in fear of your life when you didn't really.

 

[MarkFL]

I agree with you but at the same time don't see how we can have a commander in chief who even the FBI director said has played fast and loose with the rules regarding classified information. From what I saw of the FBI report into the email server issue anyone else would have faced sanctions (losing their security clearance at the very least) and yet for some reason they decided not to prosecute. And then it seems Hillary "misspoke" again when she said the FBI found she had been truthful.

Yes, and I believe you and I agree that neither Clinton nor Trump has any business being in the White House, we only disagree on which would be worse.

 

[tango]

Yes, and I believe you and I agree that neither Clinton nor Trump has any business being in the White House, we only disagree on which would be worse.

It really is a shame there isn't a "none of the above" option on the ballot.

 

[MarkFL]

Nope, can't see Donald Trump anywhere on the list of the top 200 companies in the world.

If inheriting a fortune and remaining wealthy automatically qualifies one to be president of the U.S., then I say we think much MUCH bigger than Trump...perhaps Sam Walton's daughter Alice:

She's almost 8 times as wealthy as Trump. :thumbsup: