The Ever Virginity of Mary

[MoreCoffee]

Sooooo, back to the OP...?

Yes. please

 

[Josiah]

I don't think Mary was born of a virgin.

I think all people are born virgins. I think there is a time (of several years) when ALL can say as Mary did, "I am a virgin.' Thing is: nearly all do not remain so, nearly all who at one point were virgins, at one point stated, "I am a virgin" are not PERPETUAL virgins who, at the moment of their death (or undeath), they are virgins. THAT is the point of this dogma: that this couple NEVER had sex - not once, not ever, not at all: They had NO sex EVER.

So far, NOTHING has been offered to document this as TRUE (so far, no Catholic has indicated that it even matters - even just a tiny bit - if it's true), and NOTHING to document this often spread tidbit is a matter of highest importance posslble and greatest certainty possible (de fide dogma).... neither has been confirmed at all. The normally private marital tidbit is just repeated, spread - as if doing so is what matters.


- Josiah

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

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[ImaginaryDay2]

One of the biggest arguments against the Ever Virginity of Mary is that the Bible says about Jesus's brothers. However, the Greek word for brothers was also used to address friends and every day people as we see in the Epistles.

Okay, so let's look at it.

"53 When Jesus had finished these parables, He departed from there. 54 He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers? 55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His (friends), James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? 56 And (every day people), are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” 57 And they took offense at Him." (Mat. 13, NASB).

Changes the context, doesn't it? To understand the context the way you describe it, the verse would have to be read that way.

Bump

 

[MoreCoffee]

Bump

I think that regardless of the way a reader takes 'brothers' in the passage (Matt 13:53-57 KJV) Blessed Mary is not said to be the mother of the 'brothers'.