The Communion of Saints

[MoreCoffee]

532 The Evangelist St. John, writing to the faithful on the divine mysteries, explains as follows why he undertook to instruct them in these truths: That you may have fellowship with us, and our fellowship may be with the Father, and with his son Jesus Christ. This fellowship consists in the Communion of Saints, the subject of the present Article.

Importance Of This Truth
534 Would that in its exposition pastors imitated the zeal of Paul and of the other Apostles. For not only is it a development of the preceding Article and a doctrine productive of abundant fruit; it also teaches the use to be made of the mysteries contained in the Creed, because the great end to which we should direct all our study and knowledge of them is that we may be admitted into this most august and blessed society of the Saints, and may steadily persevere therein, giving thanks with joy to God the Father, who hath made us worthy to be partakers of the lot of the saints in light.
Meaning of "The Communion of Saints"
536 The faithful, therefore, in the first place are to be informed that this part of the Article, is, as it were, a sort of explanation of the preceding part which regards the unity, sanctity and catholicity of the Church. For the unity of the Spirit, by which she is governed, brings it about that whatsoever has been given to the Church is held as a common possession by all her members.​

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[Josiah]

The ancient creed correctly defines the one, holy, catholic church as the communion of saints. The church is the whole corpus of Christians (saints) spread out over all the centuries and continents. Thus it CANNOT be The Roman Catholic Denomination (or any other denomination) which is not people, not believers, not holy, not catholic and not a communion but rather a human, geopolitical, economic, legal institution; even the RC Denomination doesn't even CLAIM that IT is holy (a denomination cannot be holy) or that on it's official rolls are ALL Christians (past and present) and ONLY Christians.

 

[MoreCoffee]

When the Nicene Creed was written there was just one holy catholic and apostolic church with the church at Rome counted as first in prestige, even though many heresies were abroad and some schisms also. Paganism had the majority of the population. There were no denominations. The concept of denomination had another 1,200+ years to go before its invention. There were no Lutherans in existence in the fourth century AD. Thus the one holy catholic and apostolic church CANNOT be any Lutheran Denomination

 

[psalms 91]

When the Nicene Creed was written there was just one holy catholic and apostolic church with the church at Rome counted as first in prestige, even though many heresies were abroad and some schisms also. Paganism had the majority of the population. There were no denominations. The concept of denomination had another 1,200+ years to go before its invention. There were no Lutherans in existence in the fourth century AD.

Yeah and of course there were not churchs that were split from that church and of course the original church had notjhing to do with the Catholic church. I thought perhaps after the controversy we were done with these threads for awhile but I guess the agenda comes first

 

[Josiah]

When the Nicene Creed was written there was just one holy catholic and apostolic church with the church at Rome counted as first in prestige, even though many heresies were abroad and some schisms also. Paganism had the majority of the population. There were no denominations. The concept of denomination had another 1,200+ years to go before its invention.

There is STILL only one, holy, catholic church - the communion of saints. But there are THOUSANDS of denominations, MILLIONS of parishes. The RC Denomination is likely the largest denomination (and one of the oldest) but it is a denomination. And a goodly number of the denominationally owned and operated parishes of the world are owned and operated by the RC Denomination. But not ALL Christians are officially registered in a parish owned and operated by the RC Denominaton (including most of the posters here at CH), so not even the MEMBERS of RC owned and operated parishes are the one, holy, catholic church - the communion of saints.

No, when the Creed was written, there were THOUSANDS of Christians - not just a denomination. And not all Christians then were registered at any parish in Rome (even if you could document that parish was owned an operated by the RC Denomination). Good try, but silly.

And your claim that the RC Denomination didn't exist until the year 1200 is both absurd and historically remarkable (can't think of anything that happened in 1200 AD but okay). But if it didn't exist until 1200 AD as you claim (!!???), then it's claims of it itself for itself are even more absurd. If the RCC didn't even exist for most of Christian history, then how absurd to argue that all Christians are in parishes owned and operated by it.





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[MoreCoffee]

The ancient creed correctly defines the one, holy, catholic church as the communion of saints. The church is the whole corpus of Christians (saints) spread out over all the centuries and continents. Thus it CANNOT be The Roman Catholic Denomination (or any other denomination) which is not people, not believers, not holy, not catholic and not a communion but rather a human, geopolitical, economic, legal institution; even the RC Denomination doesn't even CLAIM that IT is holy (a denomination cannot be holy) or that on it's official rolls are ALL Christians (past and present) and ONLY Christians.

Yeah and of course there were not churchs that were split from that church and of course the original church had notjhing to do with the Catholic church. I thought perhaps after the controversy we were done with these threads for awhile but I guess the agenda comes first

I hoped so but then [MENTION=13]Josiah[/MENTION] chipped in and now you too. The agenda never dies it seems.

 

[psalms 91]

I hoped so but then [MENTION=13]Josiah[/MENTION] chipped in and now you too. The agenda never dies it seems.

Not as long as you keep pushing the Catholic point of view with endless threads that you know we are going to disagree with. How about posting something other than catholic writinhgs rather than your own