NEW CREATION...

[Alithis]

Now ,to get back to the new creation ..
this new creation which GOD has made through Christ Jesus when we are buried with him by baptism intro his death.. and raised us up again that we might walk worthy of what he has done ...

what cart it do ? one thing we know it can do is nothing unless it abides in the vine (Jesus)
and one thing we know it cant fail to do is "anything" . that is, it cannot fail at anything Gods asks of it ,if it abides in Christ who said "all things are-possible to those who believe "

we speak of a positional matter .

As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
again what is the spiritual positioning of this new creation ? it is not a creature that will be raised up or might be raised up bat HAS BEEN raised up AND seated in heavenly realms WITH Christ JESUS .
when we begin to realize such things we move on from the topics of sin and the cross and having those foundations already established in us . we begin to not just know about it .but WALK in it .
the child runs about breaking rules but the matured spirit leaves the things of the milk and moves on to stand up and live as a son of the fathers house .

when i stayed at my earthly dads house .. i am not conscious of the rules of his house .. i Simpy don't break them ,i don't think about breaking them and then chose not to .i just don't .
i don't act like a servant or a child .
if i see the evening is coming on and it is going to be cold ..i go and cut the wood and get the fire lit , i don't need to get permission to do what i know needs to be done in my fathers house .

just so ,this new Creation is made a son and is made a co heir with the lord Jesus .this new creation already has the authority of his Father ... this new creation can see what needs to be done in his fathers kingdom and go Do it .

this is after all a study and reflection of what this new creation IS.

not what it is not or should not be .
the word of God says that it is by unbelief that promises are not entered into .
so we need to renew our minds and bring every thought and imagination into submission UNDER the knowledge of Christ.

that is difficult to do if we don't know what it is Christ has done for us .
he has made us a new creation
if we have been buried into his death by water baptism and died to the old life which ran around fulfilling what ever evil desire the flesh desired serving it relentlessly as a slave .
when we are buried into the death of Christ we lay that being down in death. even the death of the cross - and we leave him there .
that is repentance ..changing our mind so that our mind is set to no longer follow that old fleshly creature .

and we are raised up unto NEWNESS of LIFE in Christ JESUS, a NEW creation in CHRIST .. ,and HIS spirit comes and indwells us .that is how we can say it is no longer i who lives but Christ that lives in me . because the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus comes into us .(if this has not occurred then you are not born again of the Spirit,if that is the case then "ASK" )

And so it is i consider and reflect and look into the scriptures to see what exactly it is the Lord Jesus has accomplished for us on the cross and what is expected of a SON .

for one thing he said ..ALL authority is given me in heaven AND on earth.. and then it is written we are made co-heir WITH HIM.. thus ALL authority is given unto us also ..for if we are co heirs then we are co-hoers in all he has inherited in the heavens .
it is not about knowing about power but recognizing what he has made when he has made this new creation.

it is both exciting and astounding .. no wonder we can lay hands on the sick and they shall recover .. -we have ALL Christ Jesus has.

 

[Alithis]

NEW CREATION

this New creation is become one with many and the many have become a nation of new creatures in Christ ,
Ans for specific reason and purpose

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

and the specific use of the past tense and reaffirming present tense .. you WERE not .. but now you ARE...GODS people .

no nationality of this world , no race no creed of this world no constitution no tradition no culture .. no longer OF this world but
a NEW CREATION in CHRIST JESUS .

 

[psalms 91]

Yes we are and as a priesthood doesnt it make sense to understand what we are to do as a priest?

 

[Alithis]

Yes we are and as a priesthood doesnt it make sense to understand what we are to do as a priest?

not only what we are to do as a priest and a SON .. but what we are enabled to do, empowered not by any ability of our own but by the position we hold .
for a son, has the full weight of his father's authority .this is why we can lay hands on the sick and they will be healed ,because the illness has to do what we tell it to do .
that's why he tells us to go and heal the sick .. amazing isn't it .

 

[psalms 91]

That involves our faith as all things are possible if hearing from God and have the faith to step out

 

[Alithis]

That involves our faith as all things are possible if hearing from God and have the faith to step out

if hearing from god ?

that is the thing .. in my little analogy of being in my fathers house.. i didn't need to "hear from him what i knew was already his will " in order to go and do his will.
just so in Chrsit we already know his will.. he has stated it with such clarity it screams at us from the scriptures .

also we cannot say 'if" we have the faith because when we are in him and are made this new creation we were transformed through the waters of baptism and anointed(appointed)-ie baptised in the holy ghost - to bare witness of him all .. by faith , So if all that has occurred then we already have all the faith we will ever need .Since he has said faith the size of a mustard seed is enough to say to this tree be torn up and cast into the sea ..-etc.
if that is all we need for that then how much more have we already exercised when we believed in him whom we have not seen ,obeyed his instructions and been made by that faith into this new creature in christ ?
so then i observe it is not about whether we have faith, ..it was before but not now ,for we do have it .But whether we are willing to lay down our own lives and reputation and USE the faith we already have .

this is what im discovering about this new creation.. for years the establishments have been teaching us to gain to get to earn to hunger to thirst ....
yet every time i read about the things we are to gain, hunger for, get and thirst for in the scripture, it says christ has = done it ..you have it you've got it its ,been won etc .
so we have been taught to waste time seeking things we already have and feel unqualified to go and do what we are supposed to do because we have been taught to seek that which we already have as though we do not already have it .. ! yes .we have been taught the DIRECT OPPOSITE of FAITH ! .. scary isnt it .

but this NEW CREATION already has EVERYTHING required to DO all the will of God that has ALREADY been made known to us ...

 

[psalms 91]

Many dont, they will tell you so, they dont hear Him speak, they dont see, so yes if they hear from God to know what His will is in any situation

 

[Alithis]

Many dont, they will tell you so, they dont hear Him speak, they dont see, so yes if they hear from God to know what His will is in any situation

not sure if they are saved then to be honest
... that is to say .. his will is written plainly in the scriptures .. if we have read them we already know his will.
also to be saved is his will
also -how to be saved is written too
so if we hear and obey we will be saved !
so if a person says they can't hear god's will .. when it is plainly written in from of them if they are a professing believer with a bible -then how is it they consider themselves saved ?

 

[psalms 91]

not sure if they are saved then to be honest
... that is to say .. his will is written plainly in the scriptures .. if we have read them we already know his will.
also to be saved is his will
also -how to be saved is written too
so if we hear and obey we will be saved !
so if a person says they can't hear god's will .. when it is plainly written in from of them if they are a professing believer with a bible -then how is it they consider themselves saved ?

scfripture is logos and yes it tells us of His will, I am talking Rhema or the ongoing leading that we need in every situation. How about God saying dont leave yet and you are obedient and you find out if you had left then you would have been in a bad wreck, that is the leading i am talking about you wont find that written you have to be able to hear

 

[MoreCoffee]

scfripture is logos and yes it tells us of His will, I am talking Rhema or the ongoing leading that we need in every situation. How about God saying dont leave yet and you are obedient and you find out if you had left then you would have been in a bad wreck, that is the leading i am talking about you wont find that written you have to be able to hear

Scripture is writing while logos is spoken thus scripture is not logos unless it is read aloud and logos is not scripture unless it is written down.

 

[psalms 91]

sigh, logos is universally used for scripture, split hairs if you must but most everyone knows what i eman.

 

[MoreCoffee]

sigh, logos is universally used for scripture, split hairs if you must but most everyone knows what i eman.

No. It is not. Graphe is used in Greek for scripture. Logos is used for spoken words, and in some cases for the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Alithis]

scfripture is logos and yes it tells us of His will, I am talking Rhema or the ongoing leading that we need in every situation. How about God saying dont leave yet and you are obedient and you find out if you had left then you would have been in a bad wreck, that is the leading i am talking about you wont find that written you have to be able to hear

you are speaking of being "led" of the spirit ..
this is one thing we are learning ... when we GO in faith.. he leads us .
since we already know it is hos will for us to go and do.. when we start going and doing he then leads .it is when people stand around waiting to be led and dont realize the sheppard has left for the day and is about the father business .so when we go out and be about the father's business we get led by the sheppard .

but the main point here is .. what is it we are empowered by this position as a new creation to do.. and the answer is EVERYTHING that is gods will for us to do .
so if we are not obeying by going and doing , we are not living as that new creation but have turned back and are living as the 'old man' .

in christ we are made one with him. bought into UNION .

jesus said some HUGE things about us
he says of himself "I am the light of the world

THEN- he says of us "YOU are the light of the world ."
this new creation is a being,housed in flesh .in which the Holy Spirit of the loving God dwells . a body of flesh with the holy Spirit in it walking the earth .. !
yes - exactly the same as the lord Jesus .. staggering isn't it ...........

 

[Alithis]

sigh, logos is universally used for scripture, split hairs if you must but most everyone knows what i eman.

yup we know what you mean .

but here's a thought ... if your dad stood at the car and said to you in the park ..get in the car we are leaving
or he he wrote a note saying get in the car we are leaving ... and sent it to you
which has more authority ... ?
hmm =people ignore the written word of GOD at great folly and peril

 

[psalms 91]

and claim they cant hear God

 

[Alithis]

More about the new creation that GOD..has made us in christ..
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

 

[Alithis]

in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us

 

[Alithis]

for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

 

[Alithis]

To the new creation in christ the old things (of the former life) are past away.
When one is a slave under a master and that master passes away.one need not fear serving that master.
But one may be in such a state of habitual thinking that they continue to behave as if still enslaved .
They need to renew thier mind to match it to the truth that the lord jesus has set them free and they are no longer under any obligation nor compulsion to serve the one they have been set free from. They need to change thier mind (repent)and conform thier thinking to agree in faith with God.
To The new creation,old things are passed away.

 

[Alithis]

The new creature in christ is really something. What amazing being it is.
Indwelt by the very spirit of the living God.
The new creation is freed from servitude to sin and rejoices in rightousness. with joy That is so wonderous it cant be fully addressed by this temporary housings expressions.