When you're sad or ill do you wonder if God loves you?

[MoreCoffee]

if sad ..put on the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness
if ill , lay hands on and pray and recovery comes just as the word of God states .

does your advice work? are those who put it to the test never sad, ill, or in pain?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Wow I thought Christ paid it all and nothing was lacking

since the holy scriptures say otherwise how will you respond?

 

[Alithis]

does your advice work? are those who put it to the test never sad, ill, or in pain?

who said anything about never being sad .. i said "when sad " put on the garment of praise

when il .. lay hands on and pray

and yes of course it works .. thats like asking is gods word true ..

 

[MoreCoffee]

who said anything about never being sad .. i said "when sad " put on the garment of praise

when il .. lay hands on and pray

and yes of course it works .. that's like asking is gods word true ..

How exactly does it work if those who use it get ill, have pain, and feel sad? Do cancer sufferers always recover if they follow the advice and what if they die is that because they didn't follow the advice properly?

 

[Alithis]

How exactly does it work if those who use it get ill, have pain, and feel sad? Do cancer sufferers always recover if they follow the advice and what if they die is that because they didn't follow the advice properly?

this sort of carnal minded reasoning is based upon doubt -when we are honest that is all it is ,doubt and unbelief

and from that stance we will never receive what is promised for we are to live by faith not by sight .
iv not died of the flu (huge numbers have ) if i catch the flu it is AWFUL ..i call for some one to lay hands on mr and rebuke it and believe.
we stand on the word of god not in the spirit , not the evidence in the natural.

we do not deny what is plainly in front of us ,,like swollen nose runny eyes fever and misery , but we believe for the healing that is promised . we do not let the present undeniable symptoms dictate to the truth but the truth dictate to the symptoms. therefore we take authority and command the illness out

for most this is a learning curve and a huge battle -discouragement being the greatest foe

to be continued

 

[Krissy Cakes]

When you're sad or ill do you wonder if God loves you?

Being ill can be a very miserable experience and it seems so unnecessary so why do Christians get ill? Surely being in Christ and being his body ought to confer some sort of immunity, right?

Good questions.

I wonder all the time when I'm ill or depressed if God loves me. I know I should know for sure he loves me but I have mental illnesses that stop that.

To your second question "why do Christians get ill" we get ill cause we live in a fallen world.

 

[MoreCoffee]

this sort of carnal minded reasoning is based upon doubt -when we are honest that is all it is ,doubt and unbelief

Doubt is very different from unbelief. The former is wondering if such and such is right or if one's understanding of it is incorrect or distorted the latter is wilful rejection.

and from that stance we will never receive what is promised for we are to live by faith not by sight .
iv not died of the flu (huge numbers have ) if i catch the flu it is AWFUL ..i call for some one to lay hands on mr and rebuke it and believe.
we stand on the word of god not in the spirit , not the evidence in the natural.

When you do that does your flu instantly go away, no more pains, no runny nose, no more coughing the virus completely gone?

we do not deny what is plainly in front of us ,,like swollen nose runny eyes fever and misery , but we believe for the healing that is promised . we do not let the present undeniable symptoms dictate to the truth but the truth dictate to the symptoms. therefore we take authority and command the illness out

Does the healing one believes for take about a week to ten days to happen?

for most this is a learning curve and a huge battle - discouragement being the greatest foe

to be continued

Discouragement is a danger and one ought never to let doubt become despair yet it does no good to tell lies and pretend to be well when one clearly is not.

 

[psalms 91]

The word says that doubt is the same as unbelief in terms of hindering

 

[MoreCoffee]

The word says that doubt is the same as unbelief in terms of hindering

Where?

 

[psalms 91]

I believe it is in James, also didnt Jesus run into that in His hometown?

 

[MoreCoffee]

I believe it is in James, also didn't Jesus run into that in His hometown?

Unbelief yes. I do not recall doubt being mentioned.

 

[Alithis]

Where?

when james mentions the double minded man ..let not that man think he wil recive anything of the lord .
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please do not ever speak to congregations because you line of carnal minded reasoning is so filled with doubt and unbelief .. your tearing down the word of God and reinforcing every negative thought AGAINST healing ... and you wonder why there is so little of it in the churches .

Healing is one of the MAJOR things we are commanded by the Lord Jesus to do he says "GO and HEAL THE SICK ..preach the gospel ,drive out demons , raise the dead ...
to speak in amaner that undermines this is to oppose the very things we are commanded to do .

sure the healings I'v experienced may seem insignificant compared to some ..but faith is like a muscle ,when used it grows stronger when neglected it grows weaker .
as i prayer for more and more to be healed i see more and more get healed ..the deciples learned first hand how to but they did not always succeed at first ..they "learned " and the lord Jesus both encouraged instructed and at times told them off as they learned .. healing the sick is not some special gift ..it is obedience .

one must shake of every semblance of unbelief .. if we do not believe with all our heart that the lord jesus heals , how on earth can we believe he saves ? he is the same Lord and it is his SAME WORD .
we are not to believe him in one sentance and disbelieve him in the next .

 

[psalms 91]

Amen

 

[MoreCoffee]

when james mentions the double minded man ..let not that man think he will receive anything of the lord .

Double mindedness is not doubt it is indecision. Odd that you've equated unbelief and indecision with doubt as if doubt is a sin in and of itself like unbelief is.

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please do not ever speak to congregations because you line of carnal minded reasoning is so filled with doubt and unbelief .. your tearing down the word of God and reinforcing every negative thought AGAINST healing ... and you wonder why there is so little of it in the churches .

Healing is one of the MAJOR things we are commanded by the Lord Jesus to do he says "GO and HEAL THE SICK ..preach the gospel ,drive out demons , raise the dead ...
to speak in amaner that undermines this is to oppose the very things we are commanded to do .

sure the healings I'v experienced may seem insignificant compared to some ..but faith is like a muscle ,when used it grows stronger when neglected it grows weaker .
as i prayer for more and more to be healed i see more and more get healed ..the deciples learned first hand how to but they did not lays succeed at first ..they "learned " and the lord Jesus both encouraged instructed and at times told them off as they learned .. healing the sick is not some special gift ..it is obedience .

one must shake of every semblance of unbelief .. if we do not believe with all our heart that the lord jesus heals , how on earth can we believe he saves ? he is the same Lord and it is his SAME WORD .
we are not to believe him in one sentance and disbelieve him in the next .

 

[psalms 91]

Double mindedness is not doubt it is indecision. Odd that you've equated unbelief and indecision with doubt as if doubt is a sin in and of itself like unbelief is.

Doubt and unbelief in my mind are the same. Doubt leads to unbelief. This splitting of hairs is not good, easy to get off the right track

 

[MoreCoffee]

Doubt and unbelief in my mind are the same. Doubt leads to unbelief. This splitting of hairs is not good, easy to get off the right track

Doubt can lead to unbelief but it need not lead to it.

 

[psalms 91]

Yet it is not belief and therefore can hinder.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yet it is not belief and therefore can hinder.

Blind belief is as dangerous or more so.

 

[psalms 91]

so is not knowing the will of God yet many walk around that way, if you know Gods will then it is not hard at all to believe

 

[Alithis]

if doubt need not lead to unbelief then why have you let it do so... you express doubt in the healing of god and your posts display you do not believe in it.
so they are entwined completely in you and need repenting of . the serpent in the garden did not sow unbelief .. he sowed doubt - that is how insidious the activity is .

there is no such thing as blind belief in the lord Jesus.. there is just unbelief or belief, faith or the absence of it . when we truly believe we then act in faith . faith is an action .

every single person who truly believes in the words of the lord Jesus without ever having "seen" are acting on what you call blind faith .. the term is just a smokescreen to further confuse people away form faith.. away from acting on the truth of the word of God .

It is not they who know of the word of god but they who ACT on it who are saved .