are you a lurker or stalker and what's the diff?

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So it bothers you but you don't consider stalking. What DO you consider stalking?

I don't think I'm bothered by things that are open as much as most people do. I'm good at finding things so I don't find it shocking when other people can find things as well.

It's not so much the finding things as it is the reason. If it was you, it wouldn't bother me because we've developed a friendship over the years. If it was someone I didn't know, or someone who had a beef with me, that would be different.
 

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In that other place one ought to be very careful of the mods ... and bad policies with bad politics to go with the bad policies.
 

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Lammchen, George and I were talking and trying to figure out how it's determined who is merely a lurker and who gets that over used obnoxious title of stalker so now I want to hear your opinions.

did you have some one in mind that you desired to stalk when you had this backstabbing type of discussion ..were your knives rusty or sharp ?
 

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did you have some one in mind that you desired to stalk when you had this backstabbing type of discussion ..were your knives rusty or sharp ?

What a charming speculation.

Alithis, I'm fairly certain the question is general and where it gets specific concerns myself and some other people from another web board. I started that board in the early months of 2009 - so there is a lot of history there, and some deep hurts, misunderstandings and wrong doings. Unless you were there and were a part of that, then it has nothing to do with you.
 

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What a charming speculation.

Alithis, I'm fairly certain the question is general and where it gets specific concerns myself and some other people from another web board. I started that board in the early months of 2009 - so there is a lot of history there, and some deep hurts, misunderstandings and wrong doings. Unless you were there and were a part of that, then it has nothing to do with you.

im not concerned with whom it is or is not about
the point i was sharply and blatantly attempting to make -is that when folks gather to discuss other folks without the other folks (or folk ) present . they do not do well to do so . :)
 

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im not concerned with whom it is or is not about
the point i was sharply and blatantly attempting to make -is that when folks gather to discuss other folks without the other folks (or folk ) present . they do not do well to do so . :)

I see. Then you should probably concern yourself with the question at hand rather than speculate about the OP's motives.

As far as any others concerned, I have not named anyone, and some of them know I post here, I'm sure word has gotten around. Let them come if they are not already here under another name.
 

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It's not so much the finding things as it is the reason. If it was you, it wouldn't bother me because we've developed a friendship over the years. If it was someone I didn't know, or someone who had a beef with me, that would be different.

hahah Then I'm going to go through your old Facebook posts today ;)

Just kidding. I gotta go to work. Tomorrow maybe? Kidding again!
 

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In that other place one ought to be very careful of the mods ... and bad policies with bad politics to go with the bad policies.

Need some cheese?
 

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I agree with what he said
 

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SQUEAK is a nice free implementation of Smalltalk. It has a cute mascot.
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Oh no! I am so embarrassed because my phone added the U and it looks as if I was being rude instead of trying to be cute. So sorry!
 

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Oh no! I am so embarrassed because my phone added the U and it looks as if I was being rude instead of trying to be cute. So sorry!

Your phone needs to be disciplined, a good hard tapping and no charging tonight!
 

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lol that might work
 

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LOL

Love the video.

Does this mean that a person can look at you, go through your posts, look at your photo if he/she doesn't make you afraid? What about how he/she looks? Are really cute guys stalkers or potential dates?
 

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I see. Then you should probably concern yourself with the question at hand rather than speculate about the OP's motives.

As far as any others concerned, I have not named anyone, and some of them know I post here, I'm sure word has gotten around. Let them come if they are not already here under another name.

often before i answer a question i like to ask the motive for the question .. a lot of folks do so .. they answer first by saying "why do you ask ?"

but - no ,i do not consider it stalking to go through old facebook posts or blogs or forums discussions which people have posted on public forums and there by announced that they desire the materials to be read . in some cases it may be either ,depending on who is making the judgement and why ,a bit obsessive ,OR studious in depth research to see if the present material is a contradiction etc .
if the material was not meant for public perusal and was accessed by "other" means without the knowledge of permission of the person then that would be closer to an action that could be considered stalking . the truth is . if you do not want such information accessed by the public .. why did you post it ? -because you actualy DID want it accessed .. so dont cry when some one does so. its hypocritical.
 

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If a staffer made veiled death threats than why didn't you press charges?

Or at least report it to other staffers.

Multiple reasons. The primary reason is that, at the time, I had no clear idea who it might have been. Most people suspect others they don't like. Well, at the time, I had no clue this person hated me so much. I found this out much much later. I was also operating a sock when it happened, it's complicated and because of my history there, I would have just rather handled it in private. Also - going to the authorities complicates things even further - the thought never crossed my mind.

Just to clarify a few things. The threats were made in an underhanded way, and were not directed toward my main account - Stravinsk. They were directed to my first sock - Nekoda, in public.

There are a limited number of people who knew Nekoda was my sock (at that time). That would include senior staff at that time and a few others. Within mere minutes of it's first post - directed toward Nekoda, 3 staffers looked at it's profile, all female staffers. I know because I looked at the profile as well under the sock I was using at the time. That's either a super fast response time or foreknowledge among one or more of those staffers. The subsequent 2 threads were directed to men only -asking how they wanted to die. The question raised by the poster was how I wanted to die - which was a thread I myself started (and answered myself under Nekoda) - so it was a redundant question and the whole point of asking it and then repeating the question in 2 more threads which specified "men only" made the message crystal clear that the person behind the sock account was playing a wicked game - especially given some of the choices it listed. Even some other members saw it for what it was - a sick game.



I could not just report this and say "this person is behind this account" - because I didn't know who was - but what I do know is that only a limited number of people knew Nekoda was my sock at that time and 3 female staffers looked at the profile as soon as it made it's first post asking how Nekoda wanted to die.

All of this has been web-archived, in full context, on multiple servers and if it's "cleaned" - I'm going to point that out publicly. So please don't.
 
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