It's all a pretence ... No one keeps the feasts of Jehovah today.

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They are blind ed to the truth but we can still find that truth in their teachings even though they dont see it. Like it or not you can split hairs and go down rabbit trails all you want but the KJewish faith is our roots and who Christ came to.

 

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They are blinded to the truth but we can still find that truth in their teachings even though they don't see it. Like it or not you can split hairs and go down rabbit trails all you want but the KJewish faith is our roots and who Christ came to.

An interesting perspective which sounds alarmingly like Christians ought to be led by the blind. That can't be right.

 

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An interesting perspective which sounds alarmingly like Christians ought to be led by the blind. That can't be right.

Your right it isnt but like all churchs they are nort all wrong and they sure are not all right

 

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Your right it isn't but like all churches they are not all wrong and they sure are not all right

But they are not a Christian church. They are an entirely different religion. Just like Islam is. Why go to either of them for lessons about Christianity?

 

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Because that is our roots and is also a large part of who the bible is written to, seems to me that understanding is critical to learning properly

 

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Because that is our roots and is also a large part of who the bible is written to, seems to me that understanding is critical to learning properly

Our faith roots are not in what the rabbis teach today. Their religion is not the religion that Jehovah gave through Moses. They have their own religion, one that they invented with their "traditions of men" through which they make void the law of God.

 

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Our faith roots are not in what the rabbis teach today. Their religion is not the religion that Jehovah gave through Moses. They have their own religion, one that they invented with their "traditions of men" through which they make void the law of God.

To an extent yes, but still useful for history

 

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To an extent yes, but still useful for history

I am not convinced it is useful for any history that ought to impact Christian theology. Rabbinic Judaism was invented in the centuries after Christ. It is mainly drawn from after the destruction of Jerusalem and deportation of the Jews in 135 AD after the rebellion of Simon bar Kochba.

 

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Seems like true to the Catholic church history you want to get rid of anything Jewish and sadly manuy of the rites in your service are straight out of the Jewish.

 

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Seems like true to the Catholic church history you want to get rid of anything Jewish and sadly manuy of the rites in your service are straight out of the Jewish.

Why is it sad that many Catholic practises are drawn from ancient Hebrew temple and synagogue (first century synagogue) practises. Catholic liturgists rejoice in that fact and in the antiquity of the mass.

 

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If they do then they should embrace the jewishness of it. The first christians were also Jews, lets not forget that

 

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If they do then they should embrace the Jewishness of it. The first Christians were also Jews, lets not forget that

Catholic liturgists do embrace the old covenant-ness of it and rejoice in the transformation that is wrought by Christ in the way God is to be worship and honoured by the faithful under the new covenant. Yet none of this is derived from Rabbinic Judaism. Rabbinic Judaism came into being after the Christian Church was founded by the Lord. Rabbinic Judaism is, in some ways, a reaction against Christian practises and beliefs.

 

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I dont know but that would not surprise me, also lets keep in mind that the converted gentiles at first were directed to go to temple to learn

 

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I don't know but that would not surprise me, also lets keep in mind that the converted gentiles at first were directed to go to temple to learn

Gentiles were not allowed to enter the temple.

 

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its called the outer court where they could be.

 

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its called the outer court where they could be.

I think it was "the court of the gentiles" and it was outside the temple precinct.

 

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gentiles who were seeking were allowed in the outer court if I remember correctly

 

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gentiles who were seeking were allowed in the outer court if I remember correctly

The Jews tried to stone saint Paul on the rumour that he had brought believing gentiles with him to the temple so I don't think it was permitted for gentiles to be anywhere closer than the court of the gentiles.

 

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all I know is that because of needing instruction they had to be taught what the Jews already knew about God

 

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all I know is that because of needing instruction they had to be taught what the Jews already knew about God

That teaching was done in the synagogues.