Who bought Powerball tickets?

[psalms 91]

lol Tango

 

[TurtleHare]

Is gambling spoken against in scripture? It seems like I've read something about it, but a massionic Jew told me it was ok because of a draidle or something. This thread just got me curious. Any insight would be appreciated.

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Nope. Gambling isn't specifically mentioned but the love of money and trying to get rich is condemned in both the old and new testaments so if you're trying to win the lottery how many are doing it for pure entertainment reasonings and how many are in it for the cash?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Nope. Gambling isn't specifically mentioned but the love of money and trying to get rich is condemned in both the old and new testaments so if you're trying to win the lottery how many are doing it for pure entertainment reasonings and how many are in it for the cash?

Uhm...all of them I would think, regardless of if it is "fun"which is a selfish justification. Also spoken against, no doubt.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[TurtleHare]

Uhm...all of them I would think, regardless of if it is "fun"which is a selfish justification. Also spoken against, no doubt.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

I think you're right.

We all want God to bless us and some think this will be the way he'll do it!

 

[tango]

Nope. Gambling isn't specifically mentioned but the love of money and trying to get rich is condemned in both the old and new testaments so if you're trying to win the lottery how many are doing it for pure entertainment reasonings and how many are in it for the cash?

I think it's pretty obvious that most people want to win money - anyone can enjoy the sight of balls rolling out of a machine (if they're into that sort of thing) with or without buying a ticket. But what's wrong with spending $2 in the hope of winning $1,500,000,000? If I'd won the jackpot I don't deny for a minute that I'd have bought a load of things for myself, but I'd also have done a load of other good things with it. After all, the kind of money that means I never even have to think about how I'm going to pay a bill ever again means I can also do things like pay off all the money my former church borrowed for its building project, fully fund a bunch of stuff my current church is involved with, help a couple of friends get a fresh financial start and so on.

The Bible says that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil, but if you want to use that to teach against punting a couple of bucks on the Powerball you'd also need to use it to teach against going to to earn money for a living.

Uhm...all of them I would think, regardless of if it is "fun"which is a selfish justification. Also spoken against, no doubt.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

I'm not sure that Scripture is particularly vocal on fun things being bad.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I think you're right.

We all want God to bless us and some think this will be the way he'll do it!

Striving for material possession or the hoarding there off seems to me, to be spoken against in scriptures.

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I think it's pretty obvious that most people want to win money - anyone can enjoy the sight of balls rolling out of a machine (if they're into that sort of thing) with or without buying a ticket. But what's wrong with spending $2 in the hope of winning $1,500,000,000? If I'd won the jackpot I don't deny for a minute that I'd have bought a load of things for myself, but I'd also have done a load of other good things with it. After all, the kind of money that means I never even have to think about how I'm going to pay a bill ever again means I can also do things like pay off all the money my former church borrowed for its building project, fully fund a bunch of stuff my current church is involved with, help a couple of friends get a fresh financial start and so on.

The Bible says that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil, but if you want to use that to teach against punting a couple of bucks on the Powerball you'd also need to use it to teach against going to to earn money for a living.



I'm not sure that Scripture is particularly vocal on fun things being bad.

Not at all. Scripture specifically says one (able bodied) must work to eat.

Selfishness(greed/sin) is spoken against, not having fun.

Was just saying that "fun" wasn't a very good justification.

I was just wanting to find games of chance, or gambling in any form in the Bible. I vaguely recall something somewhere somewhat specifically about such.

Most here probably have a better memory of the Bible and have studied it longer.

Thanks

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[tango]

Not at all. Scripture specifically says one (able bodied) must work to eat.

I think "if a man will not work neither shall he eat" (2Th 3:10) is more about not letting people live on the backs of others without doing anything useful in return. Some within ministries these days seem to think it acceptable to expect others to fund their missions "because they are doing God's work", and Paul was pointing out that he didn't expect anything for nothing.

Selfishness(greed/sin) is spoken against, not having fun.

Was just saying that "fun" wasn't a very good justification.

Sure, although I don't know that anyone really plays lotteries just for fun. I think it's safe to say that whether it's the Powerball or a raffle people buy tickets in the hope of winning a prize.

I was just wanting to find games of chance, or gambling in any form in the Bible. I vaguely recall something somewhere somewhat specifically about such.

I think it's one of those things that comes down to moderation and the heart rather than a specific "thou shalt not" commandment. If I'm playing the lottery in the hope of winning enough money to live in a castle, collect Italian supercars and treat everyone around me with utter disdain then I'm probably in a bad place. If I'm playing the lottery in the hope of winning some money with plans to do more than just hoard it then I'm not necessarily in a bad place at all. If I'm spending a couple of bucks on a ticket instead of buying a beer that's a very different proposition to expecting my kids to go hungry because I spent a big chunk of the grocery budget on lottery tickets.

 

[popsthebuilder]

So no one can recall any scripture that refers to gambling?

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Lamb]

Did you hear about the guy who was told his "winning" lottery ticket was too damaged? That's his claim and now he's suing. Do you believe him that he was the winner or was he scamming?

 

[tango]

So no one can recall any scripture that refers to gambling?

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Feel free to post some

 

[tango]

Did you hear about the guy who was told his "winning" lottery ticket was too damaged? That's his claim and now he's suing. Do you believe him that he was the winner or was he scamming?

I guess the obvious challenge would be for him to produce the winning ticket. If the winning numbers are clearly legible, the assorted barcodes on it are clearly readable and it isn't torn/defaced/mutilated etc then he'd probably have a case. But if that were the case it's hard to see him being denied the claim, so I'll hazard a guess he's probably got something like two tickets torn in half and taped together. It's easy to buy last week's winning numbers this week, tear the two tickets in half and tape the top of one to the bottom of the other.

 

[psalms 91]

I think it is a lost cause for him

 

[Lamb]

The Lottery says the guy never made a claim. The guy said he did and it got rejected.

The news showed photos of the ticket and it was REALLY looking bad. I mean, how could it have gotten so old and mangled in such a short amount of time?

 

[Romanos]

I guess the obvious challenge would be for him to produce the winning ticket. If the winning numbers are clearly legible, the assorted barcodes on it are clearly readable and it isn't torn/defaced/mutilated etc then he'd probably have a case. But if that were the case it's hard to see him being denied the claim, so I'll hazard a guess he's probably got something like two tickets torn in half and taped together. It's easy to buy last week's winning numbers this week, tear the two tickets in half and tape the top of one to the bottom of the other.

Hope the guy realizes you can go to jail for that lol.

 

[Lamb]

So much for his lawsuit then!

 

[Brighten04]

Hmmmm, I just came back to this thread today. OK, there are scriptures that deal with the lot (lottery) and it is not any there shall not.

Proverbs 16:33
The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the Lord.

Proverbs 18:18
The lot causeth contentions to cease, and parteth between the mighty.

 

[psalms 91]

Simple, is it within your means without putting a strain on your budget? I dont think it is any more harmful than eating things that are not good for us and we dont think twice doing that

 

[Tigger]

Simple, is it within your means without putting a strain on your budget? I dont think it is any more harmful than eating things that are not good for us and we dont think twice doing that

Agreed, we just buy a couple of tickets at a time just for the fun of it.

 

[Brighten04]

Wee the Bible says:

1 Corinthians 6:12
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1 Corinthians 10:23
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

Now it would be very expedient for me to have a couple of millions!:rotfl: