ICE?

[hotrhymez]

And no I don't mean the slippery crap on sidewalks.

What are your opinions of them?

I think it is good they are trying to get rid of dangerous people but I am also hearing they are abducting legal citizens of the USA..so I dunno.

I live in Minnesota and apparently there are a ton of them in Minneapolis now so thats why im asking lol..

 

[Frankj]

And no I don't mean the slippery crap on sidewalks.

What are your opinions of them?

I think it is good they are trying to get rid of dangerous people but I am also hearing they are abducting legal citizens of the USA..so I dunno.

I live in Minnesota and apparently there are a ton of them in Minneapolis now so thats why im asking lol..

When you hear something being reported it is wise to also look into what is not being reported as well as how it is being done.

Minneapolis is a hotbed of activity because it is a hotbed of fraud as well as locally protected illegal immigrants who are subject to deportation under the law,

The true motives of those trying to block ICE from legitimate law enforcement activities should be called into question, we lie in an age of deceit.

 

[Lamb]

And no I don't mean the slippery crap on sidewalks.

What are your opinions of them?

I think it is good they are trying to get rid of dangerous people but I am also hearing they are abducting legal citizens of the USA..so I dunno.

I live in Minnesota and apparently there are a ton of them in Minneapolis now so thats why im asking lol..

What is your local news reporting about it? The national news is mostly about how ICE is the bad guy, all while protecting people who came here illegally to our country and are sucking us dry through our taxes.

 

[Frankj]

What is your local news reporting about it? The national news is mostly about how ICE is the bad guy, all while protecting people who came here illegally to our country and are sucking us dry through our taxes.

These are usually a 'follow the money' sort of thing.

Preventing it, not doing it.

Distractions diversions and evasions in place of investigation to protect the guilty by trying to make them look like innocent victims.

 

[Cam]

I'm not someone who is going to be protesting about what ICE is or isn't doing, but I don't believe they should be setting up their own checkpoints on roads and requiring vehicle occupants to prove their citizenship. That was happening in Nashville a while back.

 

[Lamb]

I'm not someone who is going to be protesting about what ICE is or isn't doing, but I don't believe they should be setting up their own checkpoints on roads and requiring vehicle occupants to prove their citizenship. That was happening in Nashville a while back.

You don't mind showing your ID to get on an airplane? Or when you buy booze? Or even signing up for a library card? We show our ID in hundreds of spots in the US. I don't mind showing mine if it means that one life can be saved. I'm pretty sure the parents of the slain girls over the past couple of years would agree. As a parent myself, I worry about my own daughter and her living in a city where people just don't care about the lives of others. When people enter this country illegally, they really don't tend to care about the rest of our laws!

 

[Cam]

You don't mind showing your ID to get on an airplane? Or when you buy booze? Or even signing up for a library card? We show our ID in hundreds of spots in the US. I don't mind showing mine if it means that one life can be saved. I'm pretty sure the parents of the slain girls over the past couple of years would agree. As a parent myself, I worry about my own daughter and her living in a city where people just don't care about the lives of others. When people enter this country illegally, they really don't tend to care about the rest of our laws!

None of those examples are the same thing. It’s not just showing an ID, it’s taking over roads and forcing everyone to prove their innocence. I don’t believe that should be happening at any level of our government, especially federally. I feel the same way about sobriety checkpoints at the local level.

 

[Frankj]

It’s not just showing an ID, it’s taking over roads and forcing everyone to prove their innocence.

I'm unfamiliar with this, could you post some valid news links to reporting about it?

 

[Lamb]

None of those examples are the same thing. It’s not just showing an ID, it’s taking over roads and forcing everyone to prove their innocence. I don’t believe that should be happening at any level of our government, especially federally. I feel the same way about sobriety checkpoints at the local level.

Innocence or legitimate citizen/right to be here?

Look, none of this would be happening if the Biden administration hadn't dropped the ball and just let everyone crawl on in. Do you know the numbers of the millions who didn't come in legally? Those who weren't vetted? Those who trafficked children? Those who have ill intent toward the USA?

There shouldn't be a problem with wanting our nation to have people here legally. It's a slap in the face to those who worked so hard to get here legally to see those who don't care for our laws get free things and get protection.

What happened to no one is above the law?

 

[Frankj]

Look, none of this would be happening if the Biden administration hadn't dropped the ball and just let everyone crawl on in

Biden didn't just 'drop the ball' which implies negligence, incompetence or a lack of attention to the problem, he did what he did deliberately and with malice aforethought as his campaign indicated he would.

He did what he did to add mass and its resulting force to his side to overcome the direction we were going at the time after Trump had started redirecting it and push it in a different direction.

It's fairly easy to understand if you translate the world of politics and social direction to mathematical vectors and forces interacting on each other.

I'm not certain he is the one who actually decided to do it this way, or even fully realized what he was doing, but he certainly agreed with it and allowed his office to be used for it.

 

[Lamb]

I'd like to also know...

"Which US laws are acceptable to disobey?"

and

"Who gets to disobey them?"


I keep thinking of the Democrat videos where people kept screaming, "No one is above the law!" Does that no longer apply?

 

[hotrhymez]

What is your local news reporting about it? The national news is mostly about how ICE is the bad guy, all while protecting people who came here illegally to our country and are sucking us dry through our taxes.

Well I have been hearing a lot about ICE shooting people, there was a story about a woman (Renee Good i think her name was?) that was shot and killed by an ICE agent.

And then there was a story about ICE agents eating at a restaurant and then arresting the workers there shortly after.

Like...huh? Some of this is weird. And who knows how true some of it is.

 

[Lamb]

Well I have been hearing a lot about ICE shooting people, there was a story about a woman (Renee Good i think her name was?) that was shot and killed by an ICE agent.

And then there was a story about ICE agents eating at a restaurant and then arresting the workers there shortly after.

Like...huh? Some of this is weird. And who knows how true some of it is.

Did those news reports state that Renee hit the ICE agent with her car?

 

[tango]

And no I don't mean the slippery crap on sidewalks.

What are your opinions of them?

I think it is good they are trying to get rid of dangerous people but I am also hearing they are abducting legal citizens of the USA..so I dunno.

I live in Minnesota and apparently there are a ton of them in Minneapolis now so thats why im asking lol..

It's hard to know what's really happening since so much of what passes as news seems to be more about inciting outrage than reporting anything useful.

When the police are seeking a criminal it's not only possible but likely they will investigate people who later prove to be innocent. This is part of normal police activity - they follow a lead and if the person is innocent they are released. If a lot of evidence suggests they have their suspect they will detain the suspect, and release them later if it turns out they have the wrong person. The issue isn't that the wrong person got caught up but how long it takes to determine their innocence and to release them once their innocence is established.

If ICE are investigating illegal immigrants it's inevitable that some people they gather up will be citizens or legal immigrants. The question is exactly what happens between those people being caught up and released.

If ICE agents eat at a restaurant does that preclude them arresting workers at the restaurant who are in the country illegally? Would it be any different to a police officer watching his son's school soccer game and then arresting the referee based on an outstanding warrant?

 

[Maranatha]

Just 2 thoughts:
1 Everyone has a strong opinion about the matter.
But I can't see proper forensic evidence, autopsy reports, opinions from legal experts etc.
I don't think the families of those killed would want to read your opinions.

2.
Here is a message from a former pastor that we all should listen to.

 

[Gordon Zhao]

All police forces should not bear fatal arms and they should not execute people.

 

[Frankj]

All police forces should not bear fatal arms and they should not execute people.

Yes, only criminals should be allowed to do that.

 

[Gordon Zhao]

Yes, only criminals should be allowed to do that.

When police forces are allowed to bear fatal arms, they are actually allowed to kill people who have not been sentenced in some cases. Killers can be executed if two or more witnesses are present to confirm their crime, but this kind of street execution is not allowed, not to mention that the victims were not murderers.

 

[Frankj]

When police forces are allowed to bear fatal arms, they are actually allowed to kill people who have not been sentenced in some cases. Killers can be executed if two or more witnesses are present to confirm their crime, but this kind of street execution is not allowed, not to mention that the victims were not murderers.

Yes, as they did when the executed St. Floyd back in 2020.

 

[Lamb]

When police forces are allowed to bear fatal arms, they are actually allowed to kill people who have not been sentenced in some cases. Killers can be executed if two or more witnesses are present to confirm their crime, but this kind of street execution is not allowed, not to mention that the victims were not murderers.

Yes, as they did when the executed St. Floyd back in 2020.

In the US, if police feel their lives being threatened (getting hit by a moving vehicle or someone has a gun and is violent), they have the right to eliminate the threat. Think of this, what if someone isn't just a threat to the police? What if they take out those standing innocently by just watching? Then people would yell at the police for allowing that to happen, right?