The Pre-Advent Investigative Judgment

[Webster]

The Bible teaches that before Christ returns, an investigative judgment reveals who among the dead rest in the promise of the first resurrection, and who among the living remain faithful, ready for translation into His kingdom when Jesus returns. This judgment not only secures the destiny of believers but also vindicates the character of God before the universe. Join us as we expose the deceptions that dismiss this vital truth and uncover the hope it brings to every believer of Jesus Christ.

Guests: James Rafferty, Jill Morikone, Ryan Johnson
Host: John Lomacang

https://3abn.org/decodingthedeception/pdfs/study-guides/005-FINAL-ThePre-AdventInvestigativeJudgment.pdf

What Is Christ’s Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary?

Jesus serves as our High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary, interceding for us with mercy and justice. The Bible gives us a glimpse of that sacred work.

adventist.org

 

[Truth7t7]

https://3abn.org/decodingthedeception/pdfs/study-guides/005-FINAL-ThePre-AdventInvestigativeJudgment.pdf

What Is Christ’s Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary?

Jesus serves as our High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary, interceding for us with mercy and justice. The Bible gives us a glimpse of that sacred work.

adventist.org

Sounds like Ellen G. White and 7th Day Adventism?

 

[BruceLeiter]

The speaker takes several verses without referring to their contexts, @Webster. Such is a dangerous way to interpret the Bible. The contexts (surrounding chapters, books, and the Bible) determine any verses' meanings. I see no biblical evidence that there is such an investigative judgment before Jesus' second coming. I believe that the Bible says that after we die, we are judged as to where we go, whether its heaven or hell; and then when Jesus returns, we will be involved in the public judgment that will demonstrate the truth of our destinies in hell or heaven.

 

[jswauto]

Sounds like Ellen G. White and 7th Day Adventism?

Ellen G. White?

Ellen G. White on Psalm 91: Protection, Judgment, and Spiritual Refuge

1. Psalm 91 as End-Time Assurance
In her commentary on Psalm 91, Ellen White described it as “a most wonderful description of the coming of the Lord to bring the wickedness of the wicked to an end” and a promise of “His love and protecting care” for those who choose Him as Redeemer. She emphasized that the righteous will “triumph with holy gladness” under God’s everlasting protection, while the wicked—who reject Christ—will lose the blessings they once took for granted.

2. The Secret Place of Prayer
In her devotional In Heavenly Places, White reflected on Psalm 91:1—“He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High…”—as a call to constant communion with God. She taught that even when not physically praying, believers can send silent petitions and find refuge in God’s presence.

“Temptations come, but you press closer and still closer to the side of Jesus… Then you gain a rich experience, resting in His love and rejoicing in His mercy.”

3. Psalm 91 in Prophetic Context
White urged believers to study Psalm 91 alongside other prophetic passages like Psalms 89–93. She saw these as “meat in due season” for youth and end-time believers, offering reproof, warning, encouragement, and rich promises.

“God’s commandment-keeping people stand under the broad shield of Omnipotence.”

 

[jswauto]

The speaker takes several verses without referring to their contexts, @Webster. Such is a dangerous way to interpret the Bible. The contexts (surrounding chapters, books, and the Bible) determine any verses' meanings. I see no biblical evidence that there is such an investigative judgment before Jesus' second coming. I believe that the Bible says that after we die, we are judged as to where we go, whether its heaven or hell; and then when Jesus returns, we will be involved in the public judgment that will demonstrate the truth of our destinies in hell or heaven.

Yes, and don't forget about the 3 Herald Angels!

The Three Angels' Messages, found in Revelation 14:6–12, serve as a central theological sequence in the book of Revelation, representing God's final warning and call to humanity just before the Second Coming of Christ and the final harvest of the earth. These messages are delivered by three distinct angels flying in mid-heaven that everyone on earth will view and hear.

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The First Angel's Message (Revelation 14:6–7)​

The First Angel delivers an "everlasting gospel" to "every nation, tribe, tongue, and people." This message has two main components:

1. Fear God and Give Glory to Him: This is a call to return to true worship and recognize God's supreme authority, rejecting idolatry and worldly allegiance. To give your life to the Lord and be saved.
2. The Hour of His Judgment Has Come: This announces that the period for the final divine judgment has begun. Crucially, the angel commands all to "worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water." This command, echoing the language of the Fourth Commandment (Exodus 20:11), emphasizes the Creator's authority and often points to a recognition of the Sabbath (a day of rest and worship).

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The Second Angel's Message (Revelation 14:8)​

The Second Angel's message is a declaration of spiritual collapse and judgment against the corrupt world system:

1. "Babylon is fallen, is fallen! That great city, because she has made all the nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
2. Identity of Babylon: In Revelation, "Babylon" is a symbolic term for a worldwide religious and political system that opposes God and persecutes His people. It represents confusion, apostasy, luxury, and spiritual compromise.
3. The Proclamation: The message is an announcement of the certainty of Babylon's moral and spiritual ruin, urging believers to prepare to separate from its influence. Leave Babiylon now so you are not destroyed with it.

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The Third Angel's Message (Revelation 14:9–12)​

The Third Angel delivers the most solemn and severe warning, contrasting the call to worship the Creator with the consequence of worshiping the Beast:

1. Warning Against the Beast and Image: This message issues a stern warning against receiving the "mark of the beast," worshipping the Beast and being forever separated from the Lord. Receiving the mark signifies spiritual allegiance to the forces opposing God.
2. Consequence of Disobedience: Those who choose the mark are warned that they "shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God... and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone." This emphasizes the final, eternal judgment awaiting those who willfully persist in rebellion.
3. The Character of the Saints: The final verses define God's faithful followers in the last days: "Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." This provides the positive counterbalance, defining true fidelity as adherence to God's moral law coupled with a living faith in Jesus.

Collectively, the Three Angels' Messages summarize the core conflict of the end times—the struggle between true worship of the Creator and submission to the final, false system of world power and religion—serving as a final, decisive call to choose allegiance.

 

[Webster]

Sounds like Ellen G. White and 7th Day Adventism?

Yes, you'd be correct.

 

[Webster]

I believe that the Bible says that after we die, we are judged as to where we go, whether its heaven or hell; and then when Jesus returns, we will be involved in the public judgment that will demonstrate the truth of our destinies in hell or heaven.

Then you do believe there is a judgment which we all face. The thing about the pre-advent judgment is that it (a) vindicates the righteous, those who have kept to the faith of Christ and followed His commandments (you know, those Ten that He wrote on the tablets of stone to Moses) and (b) confirms the eventual condemnation of the wicked.

 

[Truth7t7]

Then you do believe there is a judgment which we all face. The thing about the pre-advent judgment is that it (a) vindicates the righteous, those who have kept to the faith of Christ and followed His commandments (you know, those Ten that He wrote on the tablets of stone to Moses) and (b) confirms the eventual condemnation of the wicked.

The false teaching of the "Investigative Judgement" is nothing more than a cover up for the false prediction of William Miller's false claim of Jesus returning on October 22, 1844 AKA "The Great Disappointment", wave the magic wand and poof the false prediction is now the "Investigative Judgement" cover up, the Millerite movement was out and the name 7th Day Adventist was shortly born thereafter

Ellen G. White claimed to have over 2,000 dreams and visions from God?

Sunday Observance Is The Mark Of The Beast?

Soul Sleep Upon The Wickeds Death, In Denial Of A Literal Hell Fire?

The Doctrine Of (The Investigative Judgement) Was Created in 1844 After The Second Coming Prediction Failed In (The Great Disappointment)?

Ellen G White And Her Husband James Are Buried Under The Occultic Freemasonry Egyptian Obelisk?

Wikipedia: The Great Disappointment in the Millerite movement was the reaction that followed Baptist preacher William Miller's proclamation that Jesus Christ would return to the Earth by 1844, which he called the Second Advent. His study of the Daniel 8 prophecy during the Second Great Awakening led him to conclude that Daniel's "cleansing of the sanctuary" was cleansing the world from sin when Christ would come, and he and many others prepared. When Jesus did not appear by October 22, 1844, Miller and his followers were disappointed.[1][2][3][4]

These events paved the way for the Adventists who formed the Seventh-day Adventist Church. They contended that what had happened on October 22 was not Jesus's return, as Miller had thought, but the start of Jesus's final work of atonement, the cleansing in the heavenly sanctuary, leading up to the Second Coming.

Wikipedia: The investigative judgment, or pre-Advent Judgment (or, more precisely, the pre-Second Advent Judgment), is a unique Seventh-day Adventist doctrine which asserts that the divine judgment of professed Christians has been in progress since 1844. It is intimately related to the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and was described by one of the church's pioneers Ellen G. White as one of the pillars of Adventist belief.[1][2] It is a major component of the broader Adventist understanding of the "heavenly sanctuary", and the two are sometimes spoken of interchangeably.

 

[BruceLeiter]

The false teaching of the "Investigative Judgement" is nothing more than a cover up for the false prediction of William Miller's false claim of Jesus returning on October 22, 1844 AKA "The Great Disappointment", wave the magic wand and poof the false prediction is now the "Investigative Judgement" cover up, the Millerite movement was out and the name 7th Day Adventist was shortly born thereafter

Ellen G. White claimed to have over 2,000 dreams and visions from God?

Sunday Observance Is The Mark Of The Beast?

Soul Sleep Upon The Wickeds Death, In Denial Of A Literal Hell Fire?

The Doctrine Of (The Investigative Judgement) Was Created in 1844 After The Second Coming Prediction Failed In (The Great Disappointment)?

Ellen G White And Her Husband James Are Buried Under The Occultic Freemasonry Egyptian Obelisk?

Wikipedia: The Great Disappointment in the Millerite movement was the reaction that followed Baptist preacher William Miller's proclamation that Jesus Christ would return to the Earth by 1844, which he called the Second Advent. His study of the Daniel 8 prophecy during the Second Great Awakening led him to conclude that Daniel's "cleansing of the sanctuary" was cleansing the world from sin when Christ would come, and he and many others prepared. When Jesus did not appear by October 22, 1844, Miller and his followers were disappointed.[1][2][3][4]

These events paved the way for the Adventists who formed the Seventh-day Adventist Church. They contended that what had happened on October 22 was not Jesus's return, as Miller had thought, but the start of Jesus's final work of atonement, the cleansing in the heavenly sanctuary, leading up to the Second Coming.

Wikipedia: The investigative judgment, or pre-Advent Judgment (or, more precisely, the pre-Second Advent Judgment), is a unique Seventh-day Adventist doctrine which asserts that the divine judgment of professed Christians has been in progress since 1844. It is intimately related to the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and was described by one of the church's pioneers Ellen G. White as one of the pillars of Adventist belief.[1][2] It is a major component of the broader Adventist understanding of the "heavenly sanctuary", and the two are sometimes spoken of interchangeably.

Despite SDA's false teachings, I am thankful that they have returned to the biblical teaching of the Trinity.

 

[jswauto]

The false teaching of the "Investigative Judgement" is nothing more than a cover up for the false prediction of William Miller's false claim of Jesus returning on October 22, 1844 AKA "The Great Disappointment", wave the magic wand and poof the false prediction is now the "Investigative Judgement" cover up, the Millerite movement was out and the name 7th Day Adventist was shortly born thereafter

Ellen G. White claimed to have over 2,000 dreams and visions from God?

Sunday Observance Is The Mark Of The Beast?

Soul Sleep Upon The Wickeds Death, In Denial Of A Literal Hell Fire?

The Doctrine Of (The Investigative Judgement) Was Created in 1844 After The Second Coming Prediction Failed In (The Great Disappointment)?

Ellen G White And Her Husband James Are Buried Under The Occultic Freemasonry Egyptian Obelisk?

Wikipedia: The Great Disappointment in the Millerite movement was the reaction that followed Baptist preacher William Miller's proclamation that Jesus Christ would return to the Earth by 1844, which he called the Second Advent. His study of the Daniel 8 prophecy during the Second Great Awakening led him to conclude that Daniel's "cleansing of the sanctuary" was cleansing the world from sin when Christ would come, and he and many others prepared. When Jesus did not appear by October 22, 1844, Miller and his followers were disappointed.[1][2][3][4]

These events paved the way for the Adventists who formed the Seventh-day Adventist Church. They contended that what had happened on October 22 was not Jesus's return, as Miller had thought, but the start of Jesus's final work of atonement, the cleansing in the heavenly sanctuary, leading up to the Second Coming.

Wikipedia: The investigative judgment, or pre-Advent Judgment (or, more precisely, the pre-Second Advent Judgment), is a unique Seventh-day Adventist doctrine which asserts that the divine judgment of professed Christians has been in progress since 1844. It is intimately related to the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and was described by one of the church's pioneers Ellen G. White as one of the pillars of Adventist belief.[1][2] It is a major component of the broader Adventist understanding of the "heavenly sanctuary", and the two are sometimes spoken of interchangeably.

Praise the Lord!

 

[Truth7t7]

Praise the Lord!

Yes Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

 

[Truth7t7]

when Jesus returns, we will be involved in the public judgment that will demonstrate the truth of our destinies in hell or heaven.

When Jesus returns we will be involved in a Judgement that involves the destiny for the unsaved wicked judged to (The Lake Of Fire) Rev 20:11-15 and the saved righteous being rewarded with the (New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem), Rev 21:1-5?

 

[jswauto]

When Jesus returns we will be involved in a Judgement that involves the destiny for the unsaved wicked judged to (The Lake Of Fire) Rev 20:11-15 and the saved righteous being rewarded with the (New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem), Rev 21:1-5?

When you give your life to Jesus, and are forgiven of your sins, that is in fact the judgement of the righteous!

 

[Truth7t7]

When you give your life to Jesus, and are forgiven of your sins, that is in fact the judgement of the righteous!

I Disagree With Your Claim

Every man's work will be judged by the Lords fire at his return

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

 

[jswauto]

I Disagree With Your Claim

Every man's work will be judged by the Lords fire at his return

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Are you arguing against your own Salvation?