Men enjoy fighting/violence?

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Do you think men are prone to enjoying fighting and violence?

Whenever two men are fighting and there is a group of people around, the other men are cheering them on and encouraging them to hit harder. I rarely see two women fighting, although it does happen, but when it does, the women around them don't egg them on too often. Yes, it happens, but usually I've seen women trying to break up the fight, as opposed to men.
 

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Do you think men are prone to enjoying fighting and violence?

Whenever two men are fighting and there is a group of people around, the other men are cheering them on and encouraging them to hit harder. I rarely see two women fighting, although it does happen, but when it does, the women around them don't egg them on too often. Yes, it happens, but usually I've seen women trying to break up the fight, as opposed to men.

Yes. Not that it is necessarily enjoyed (sometimes it is), but it is part of our nature as men. Who fights the wars? Who protects women and children from hostile forces? Does that mean we look forward to it? No, more often the price is high and we would rather avoid if possible.

There are men who enjoy senseless, purposeless violence and fighting, and I think that is probably covering up some defect or need in them, just as there are women who enjoy instigating men or (a man) to it.
 

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I'd really rather not get into a physical fight unless there's no desirable way to avoid it.

If there's a bit of aggro going on at the bar there's no point escalating or getting involved unless there's a compelling reason to get involved. If it's just to prove a point it's not likely to end well, and the risks frankly don't justify what little reward is on offer. If it's more like some guy hitting on my wife and not leaving her alone then it's about so much more than just making a point.

As it happens the last time I came close to using violence was to deal with a guy who was getting in my wife's face and ignoring her repeated requests to back away. It was quite a long time ago and from what I remember the look of terror in his face as I grabbed him and span him around with my other fist clenched ready to take him out made it clear I wasn't going to need to go any further.
 

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Yes. Not that it is necessarily enjoyed (sometimes it is), but it is part of our nature as men. Who fights the wars? Who protects women and children from hostile forces? Does that mean we look forward to it? No, more often the price is high and we would rather avoid if possible.

There are men who enjoy senseless, purposeless violence and fighting, and I think that is probably covering up some defect or need in them, just as there are women who enjoy instigating men or (a man) to it.


I largely agree with Stravinsk.....

Chuck it up to harmonies.

God made us male and female.... and I think He made us different, and not just in our reproductive roles.

My wife is a retired public school teacher and mother of two boys, and she insists there simply IS a difference between boys and girls and this can be seen very early; boys are simply more active, more physical. She says when she was a little girl, she'd play with her brothers cars but she played that they were having tea and talking with each other, whereas her brothers crashed them together in loud, violent accidents, LOL.

Yeah, a LOT of generalization and stereotyping, but yes, males are just more physical and aggressive... and they tend to be competitive (and not just in games). This MAY be because of the traditional male role of hunting and protecting the family (yeah, stereotyping). Although the enormous economic changes of the past few centuries have impacted the role and actions of men, perhaps you can still see it in things like football?


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This question brings back an old memory.

Several years ago (umm...perhaps 10 at least) I was at a pub enjoying some beer and listening to my friend's band. A young(ish) man approached me and started acting familiar - like he was gay. I noticed he was not alone. He had at least 4 male friends who were watching our interaction. I set down my beer and gently pushed him away out of my space. He said, to his friends "I don't think he likes me". I notice other people taking notice. They are taking notice because I'm tall and broad shouldered and they see someone instigating a fight. He approaches me again and becomes familiar with his words/actions. Again I push him away gently.

There is some change (I can't remember what), and I am able to briefly remove myself from the situation. Then, I go outside. As luck would have it - there is a Taxi right there, empty - and I take it. I go to my friend's house where I had been planning to stay the night.

Upon hearing the story, the woman (my former friend's wife) looks visibly surprised at my distress. Probably because I'm big and tall. But I'm not stupid and she obviously misunderstands. If I had done anything - instigated any violence, I would have had at least 4 other guys waiting to pound me, perhaps send me to the hospital - all for nothing. Some loser who felt the need for senseless violence on a large male. Perhaps to prove himself in some way or something.

After an hour or so, her husband (my former friend), returns. I tell him the story. He tells me that the same group were harassing other males looking to get into a fight after the music ended and the band was packing up.

I hate these types of males. I am not one of them. I have the fight and violent instinct, but I'd prefer to avoid it, especially for crap like this. It's there for a reason, not to be exercised frivolously and for reasons of ego.
 

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This question brings back an old memory.

Several years ago (umm...perhaps 10 at least) I was at a pub enjoying some beer and listening to my friend's band. A young(ish) man approached me and started acting familiar - like he was gay. I noticed he was not alone. He had at least 4 male friends who were watching our interaction. I set down my beer and gently pushed him away out of my space. He said, to his friends "I don't think he likes me". I notice other people taking notice. They are taking notice because I'm tall and broad shouldered and they see someone instigating a fight. He approaches me again and becomes familiar with his words/actions. Again I push him away gently.

There is some change (I can't remember what), and I am able to briefly remove myself from the situation. Then, I go outside. As luck would have it - there is a Taxi right there, empty - and I take it. I go to my friend's house where I had been planning to stay the night.

Upon hearing the story, the woman (my former friend's wife) looks visibly surprised at my distress. Probably because I'm big and tall. But I'm not stupid and she obviously misunderstands. If I had done anything - instigated any violence, I would have had at least 4 other guys waiting to pound me, perhaps send me to the hospital - all for nothing. Some loser who felt the need for senseless violence on a large male. Perhaps to prove himself in some way or something.

After an hour or so, her husband (my former friend), returns. I tell him the story. He tells me that the same group were harassing other males looking to get into a fight after the music ended and the band was packing up.

I hate these types of males. I am not one of them. I have the fight and violent instinct, but I'd prefer to avoid it, especially for crap like this. It's there for a reason, not to be exercised frivolously and for reasons of ego.

Do you think alcohol made them feel more bold, that they didn't care about consequences?
 

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Do you think alcohol made them feel more bold, that they didn't care about consequences?
It is possible. I don't, and cannot speak to their motives. When confronted with this scenario, I assume the male in question has a particular problem. Something missing, or hurt, in his life. Who knows what it is? A failed relationship...a women who treated him badly, who knows? Alcohol is probably not the cause or the driver, rather an escape. I don't think women really know, that men really want to love them, to be accepted by them and to love them, to serve them and protect them as men...but are denied by society
 
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