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This is a very important and 'telling' question.
Yet no one, on this, a 'Christian forum', has attempted to respond. I am amazed.
What is the 'only' conclusion one can come to? Believe the lie. The lie is more important than the truth.
How disgusting.
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Pentecost, (Acts 2) was the beginning of the Church.
The Church, the Body of Christ, did not exist prior to (Acts 2) How could it?
One's view of Pentecost will affect their view of Israel. Will affect their view of the Rapture. Will affect their view of dispensations.
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The Church, the Body of Christ, did not exist prior to (Acts 2) How could it?
One's view of Pentecost will affect their view of Israel. Will affect their view of the Rapture. Will affect their view of dispensations.
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Pentecost is an Old Testament feast God commanded Israel to hold, also called the "feast of harvest" or "feast of weeks." It was reckoned from the second day of Passover (Nisan 16) with 49 days counted, and to be held on the 50th day (see Exodus 23; Leviticus 23; Exodus 34:22; Numbers 28:26). A tribute offering was to be offered to God. The whole house, including the servants, were to rejoice to God on Pentecost.
The Acts 2 Pentecost event when the cloven tongue was spoken by The Holy Spirit, was the manifest promise by Lord Jesus per Acts 1:4-5; His command that His Apostles were not to leave Jerusalem then, but to wait for the Promise of The Father which is the baptism by The Holy Spirit.
According to the Greek of Acts 2, what was spoken on Acts 2 Pentecost was not gibberish no one could understand.
The cloven tongue went out as known languages of all who were present there to hear it. That is why the people there were so amazed, because the Apostles spoke even the very dialects of the people's languages of birth from those many country regions where the people that were present were from. The cloven tongue is directly related to the one tongue that all peoples once spoke prior to the tower of Babel event when God confused the one language. God said in Zephaniah 3:9 that He is going to return all peoples to speak the one tongue again in the future, most likely after Christ's future return, meaning after God's indignation of Zephaniah 3:8.
The Acts 2 Scripture, in the Greek, specifically mentions the Greek word dialektos, which is where our English word for dialect comes from. That is how accurate and clearly understood the cloven tongue spoken on Pentecost was. If you were from the North, you would have heard the Apostles say "you's guys"; if from the South you'd have heard them say "yal or you all." That's what is meant by dialect. It is the slang of your language of your area of birth. God knows how we speak and hear.
I do not adhere to men's seminary traditions of when the Church started. Reason is because of what Paul taught in Galatians 3 that The Gospel was first preached to Abraham, so all those of Faith, Paul said, are the children of Abraham. Lord Jesus was ordained to come to die on the cross before the foundation of this world, and even David was given to prophesy about Christ's crucifixion about a thousand years before it happened (See Psalms 22). Isaiah also prophesied about it (Isaiah 53).
So just because the majority of the Jews didn't know or understand about Christ's coming did not make Christ's coming of no effect. Some back in Old Testament times did know about it and did believe, like Abraham, even as Lord Jesus showed at the end of John 8 when He said that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad. That's just not popularly taught in today's Churches, but men's seminaries constantly battle between acceptance of Paul's Epistles vs. those who are anti-Pauline believers about the start of the Christian Church.
Apostle Paul showed Christ's Church began with The Gospel having been preached first to Abraham, and Abraham believed, and it was counted to Abraham as righteousness...
Gal 3:6-9
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, 'In thee shall all nations be blessed.'
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
KJV
Gal 3:13-14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, 'Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree':
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
KJV
Not many brethren in Christ know, when we all should, that God's Birthright Blessings first given to Abraham included The Gospel Promise by Faith on Jesus Christ. That is why Apostle Paul taught what he did above.
And that Birthright from God to Abraham was then transferred to Abraham's son Isaac, and then to his son Jacob, and then to his son Joseph, and finally upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh with whom The Gospel of Jesus Christ still mainly abides among to this day with the Christian Church among the "multitude of nations" that Ephraim was to become. The foundation of the western Christian nations of history was Bible prophesy all along, it's just not often taught in the Churches because it encompasses a long study in Bible Scripture. My point here though is, there was always a remnant even back to Old Testament times that was ordained to know and carry The Gospel of Jesus Christ as part of their Birthright Blessings from God (like Abraham); it's just that they didn't get to live to the time to see it literally fulfilled with Christ's death and resurrection.
The Acts 2 Pentecost event when the cloven tongue was spoken by The Holy Spirit, was the manifest promise by Lord Jesus per Acts 1:4-5; His command that His Apostles were not to leave Jerusalem then, but to wait for the Promise of The Father which is the baptism by The Holy Spirit.
According to the Greek of Acts 2, what was spoken on Acts 2 Pentecost was not gibberish no one could understand.
The cloven tongue went out as known languages of all who were present there to hear it. That is why the people there were so amazed, because the Apostles spoke even the very dialects of the people's languages of birth from those many country regions where the people that were present were from. The cloven tongue is directly related to the one tongue that all peoples once spoke prior to the tower of Babel event when God confused the one language. God said in Zephaniah 3:9 that He is going to return all peoples to speak the one tongue again in the future, most likely after Christ's future return, meaning after God's indignation of Zephaniah 3:8.
The Acts 2 Scripture, in the Greek, specifically mentions the Greek word dialektos, which is where our English word for dialect comes from. That is how accurate and clearly understood the cloven tongue spoken on Pentecost was. If you were from the North, you would have heard the Apostles say "you's guys"; if from the South you'd have heard them say "yal or you all." That's what is meant by dialect. It is the slang of your language of your area of birth. God knows how we speak and hear.
I do not adhere to men's seminary traditions of when the Church started. Reason is because of what Paul taught in Galatians 3 that The Gospel was first preached to Abraham, so all those of Faith, Paul said, are the children of Abraham. Lord Jesus was ordained to come to die on the cross before the foundation of this world, and even David was given to prophesy about Christ's crucifixion about a thousand years before it happened (See Psalms 22). Isaiah also prophesied about it (Isaiah 53).
So just because the majority of the Jews didn't know or understand about Christ's coming did not make Christ's coming of no effect. Some back in Old Testament times did know about it and did believe, like Abraham, even as Lord Jesus showed at the end of John 8 when He said that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad. That's just not popularly taught in today's Churches, but men's seminaries constantly battle between acceptance of Paul's Epistles vs. those who are anti-Pauline believers about the start of the Christian Church.
Apostle Paul showed Christ's Church began with The Gospel having been preached first to Abraham, and Abraham believed, and it was counted to Abraham as righteousness...
Gal 3:6-9
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, 'In thee shall all nations be blessed.'
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
KJV
Gal 3:13-14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, 'Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree':
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
KJV
Not many brethren in Christ know, when we all should, that God's Birthright Blessings first given to Abraham included The Gospel Promise by Faith on Jesus Christ. That is why Apostle Paul taught what he did above.
And that Birthright from God to Abraham was then transferred to Abraham's son Isaac, and then to his son Jacob, and then to his son Joseph, and finally upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh with whom The Gospel of Jesus Christ still mainly abides among to this day with the Christian Church among the "multitude of nations" that Ephraim was to become. The foundation of the western Christian nations of history was Bible prophesy all along, it's just not often taught in the Churches because it encompasses a long study in Bible Scripture. My point here though is, there was always a remnant even back to Old Testament times that was ordained to know and carry The Gospel of Jesus Christ as part of their Birthright Blessings from God (like Abraham); it's just that they didn't get to live to the time to see it literally fulfilled with Christ's death and resurrection.
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