Turkish MP says that Israel "will suffer the wrath of Allah" and then immediately has a heart attack

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Turkish lawmaker Hasan Bitmez collapses from a heart attack just seconds after saying Israel would "suffer the wrath of Allah." The 53-year old lawmaker collapsed after giving his speech in the General Assembly Hall in Ankara, the Capital of Turkey.

"We can perhaps hide from our conscience but not from history... Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah," he said seconds before collapsing.

Bitmez is reportedly in "critical condition" after he became "disturbed" during his speech.

Moment Turkish MP collapses in parliament after condemning Israel
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1734662834062258307?s=20

This is very bizarre. What do you think?

 

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Oh wow. Luckily he's not dead. I pray he gets saved. Better bless Israel.
 

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How ironic. Allah Akbar! But wait...maybe He is not so great.

This Islamic leader says Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah, and then he immediately has a heart attack and later dies. And no one wants to draw the plain conclusions. I watched the news all day, and every one avoided it.

What are the conclusions? Well, Allah wasn't happy because he must have killed the Islamic leader. Or, Allah, isn't really powerful because he couldn't protect his man, when God killed him.

I will say this again, even though Israel is under the judgement of God for their rejection of Him and Jesus Christ, they are still the chosen race, and God will always have His eye upon them.

Let Islam and others beware. God has much patience. But when you cross the line, He takes you out.

My opinion.

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Turkish lawmaker Hasan Bitmez collapses from a heart attack just seconds after saying Israel would "suffer the wrath of Allah." The 53-year old lawmaker collapsed after giving his speech in the General Assembly Hall in Ankara, the Capital of Turkey.

"We can perhaps hide from our conscience but not from history... Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah," he said seconds before collapsing.

Bitmez is reportedly in "critical condition" after he became "disturbed" during his speech.

Moment Turkish MP collapses in parliament after condemning Israel
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1734662834062258307?s=20

This is very bizarre. What do you think?


Look at him. He looks overweight and unhealthy. 53 still young for a heart attack, normally, but in this day and age when young fit athletes and children are collapsing and dying during exercise having had the poison batch of the covid-19 "vaccine", nothing surprises me.

Speaking of dying suddenly, I've been against what Israel is doing from the start. I'm still here. So are all the millions that gathered in streets all over the world to protest against Israel. Guess I can't come to the same stupid conclusion as the Zionist minded.
 

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How ironic. Allah Akbar! But wait...maybe He is not so great.

This Islamic leader says Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah, and then he immediately has a heart attack and later dies. And no one wants to draw the plain conclusions. I watched the news all day, and every one avoided it.

What are the conclusions? Well, Allah wasn't happy because he must have killed the Islamic leader. Or, Allah, isn't really powerful because he couldn't protect his man, when God killed him.

I will say this again, even though Israel is under the judgement of God for their rejection of Him and Jesus Christ, they are still the chosen race, and God will always have His eye upon them.

Let Islam and others beware. God has much patience. But when you cross the line, He takes you out.

My opinion.

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I don't know who you think you're convincing. This biased reasoning is tiring to me to read.

I'm sure you believe in the Holocaust official narrative. One Turkish dude collapsing means God did it, but 6 million dying means Satan did it, and God looked on, helpless, or unwilling. God will strike down one fat, unhealthy looking Turkish leader because he didn't bless the "chosen people" in his words, but at the same time let's some Germans prepare ovens for 6 million.

LOL. Into the mind of "reason" by the extremely confirmation biased.
 

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Look at him. He looks overweight and unhealthy. 53 still young for a heart attack, normally, but in this day and age when young fit athletes and children are collapsing and dying during exercise having had the poison batch of the covid-19 "vaccine", nothing surprises me.

Speaking of dying suddenly, I've been against what Israel is doing from the start. I'm still here. So are all the millions that gathered in streets all over the world to protest against Israel. Guess I can't come to the same stupid conclusion as the Zionist minded.

Of course, to you it's just a coincidence. Funny isn't it. On Nov. 10, you proclaimed you had a conversation with God about how you don't see Him today as He is described in the Bible. And you indicated God didn't answer you, as though He should care for your unbelieving rants.

And now, we see very clearly the God of the Bible active today. But to you, it means nothing. Just an overweight man who had a heart attack, while proclaiming how Allah will destroy Israel, on public TV so all the world will witness.

It reveals the depths of your unbelief. It reveals the insincerity of your posts concerning God. The unbelieving doesn't bring questions about God in order to find God. The unbelieving bring questions about God to cast doubt upon God to shore up their unbelief.

And, concerning your being against Israel, and all the Islamic protests against Israel, God doesn't do all His work in one moment of time. In other words, just because you're still here means nothing as proof that God didn't take the Turkish MP out.

The timing of the MP's death is revealing and should be a warning to Islam. Because either Allah took him or he didn't. So what does Islam want to say? Is Allah in control of his peoples death or not? And if he is in control, why did he kill his man at that perfect timing? And, the timing was perfect.

In my opinion.

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I don't know who you think you're convincing. This biased reasoning is tiring to me to read.

I'm sure you believe in the Holocaust official narrative. One Turkish dude collapsing means God did it, but 6 million dying means Satan did it, and God looked on, helpless, or unwilling. God will strike down one fat, unhealthy looking Turkish leader because he didn't bless the "chosen people" in his words, but at the same time let's some Germans prepare ovens for 6 million.

LOL. Into the mind of "reason" by the extremely confirmation biased.

No, as usual, your spin, (mind of reason), is flawed throughout.

Of course I believe the historical record of the holocaust. And as a Christian, I know Satan was very active in it as he has a consuming hatred for the Jews. But, God was behind the Holocaust allowing Satan to do as he did. Why? Because Israel is still under the judgement of God. And, because God was ready to bring the Jews back into the promised land. It took the holocaust to bring it about.

So, let Islam know, it is God Who brought the Jews back to the Land. And they are never going to leave. There is never going to be any two state solution. God has given that land to the Jews and they will have it forever. They have some of it today in unbelief. But there is coming a time when they will have it all in belief.

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Of course, to you it's just a coincidence. Funny isn't it. On Nov. 10, you proclaimed you had a conversation with God about how you don't see Him today as He is described in the Bible. And you indicated God didn't answer you, as though He should care for your unbelieving rants.
Ah, Lee's god of hate.
And now, we see very clearly the God of the Bible active today. But to you, it means nothing. Just an overweight man who had a heart attack, while proclaiming how Allah will destroy Israel, on public TV so all the world will witness.
No, it means nothing. Coincidences do happen. What would strike me as a "move from God" is some clear consistency. The millions upon millions of people going to the streets protesting Israel suddenly all dying. Most, if not all individuals suddenly dying when the proclaim Israel to be Isra-hell.

But they didn't Lees. But you've got your fat man that likely had heart issues anyway collapsing and dying. You put out the "love" emoji in response to his death.

This says a few things about you. It reveals your hate. It also reveals the confirmation bias your allow your mind to operate on.
It reveals the depths of your unbelief. It reveals the insincerity of your posts concerning God. The unbelieving doesn't bring questions about God in order to find God. The unbelieving bring questions about God to cast doubt upon God to shore up their unbelief.

*Sigh* You are so desperate to discredit whatever I may say about God or Scripture it's actually sort of sad. Perhaps it's partial projection. That wouldn't be surprising, given your seeming devotion to the "chose people". They've been projecting their evils onto others for centuries. The old saying that a Jew will cry out when he strikes you probably holds here.
And, concerning your being against Israel, and all the Islamic protests against Israel, God doesn't do all His work in one moment of time. In other words, just because you're still here means nothing as proof that God didn't take the Turkish MP out.

Ah! God is so precise when He wants to get a message out by striking down a fat unhealthy older gentleman, but the other millions that weren't stricken that showed similar sentiments will be done in some elusive vague time in the future.

God's timing when it's convenient. Vague timing when it's not.
The timing of the MP's death is revealing and should be a warning to Islam. Because either Allah took him or he didn't. So what does Islam want to say? Is Allah in control of his peoples death or not? And if he is in control, why did he kill his man at that perfect timing? And, the timing was perfect.

In my opinion.

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Ah, Lee's god of hate.

No, it means nothing. Coincidences do happen. What would strike me as a "move from God" is some clear consistency. The millions upon millions of people going to the streets protesting Israel suddenly all dying. Most, if not all individuals suddenly dying when the proclaim Israel to be Isra-hell.

But they didn't Lees. But you've got your fat man that likely had heart issues anyway collapsing and dying. You put out the "love" emoji in response to his death.

This says a few things about you. It reveals your hate. It also reveals the confirmation bias your allow your mind to operate on.


*Sigh* You are so desperate to discredit whatever I may say about God or Scripture it's actually sort of sad. Perhaps it's partial projection. That wouldn't be surprising, given your seeming devotion to the "chose people". They've been projecting their evils onto others for centuries. The old saying that a Jew will cry out when he strikes you probably holds here.


Ah! God is so precise when He wants to get a message out by striking down a fat unhealthy older gentleman, but the other millions that weren't stricken that showed similar sentiments will be done in some elusive vague time in the future.

God's timing when it's convenient. Vague timing when it's not.

Desperate? I'm not desperate. Why would I be desperate? It doesn't take much to discredit what you say about God.

Ah, yes...the timing was perfect.

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I've been against what Israel is doing from the start.
How can you be against the fact that Israel wants to take their land back from the people who occupied it?
 

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How can you be against the fact that Israel wants to take their land back from the people who occupied it?

As far as I know, it's the only land that puts God in the position of a real-estate agent. Most land in other places passes down from generation to generation

If I, for example, am kicked off my land for some good reason (for example, I'm using it to create some highly dangerous, illegal and harmful substance that poisons my neighbors ground water, air etc) - I no longer have a claim to it, neither any children that I have.

God divorced Israel. Jeremiah 3:8 They were kicked off that land and scattered to Babylon and elsewhere for the evil that they continually did.

It's not "Jewish" land because God hasn't been their God for centuries. He divorced them. They are a foresaken people.
 

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If I, for example, am kicked off my land for some good reason (for example, I'm using it to create some highly dangerous, illegal and harmful substance that poisons my neighbors ground water, air etc) - I no longer have a claim to it, neither any children that I have.
No one can be legally kicked off their land. If they're a threat to their neighbors, the neighbors can cut off any contact with them by building walls and water dams along the borders. Any human attempt to drive someone out of their land is morally wrong, regardless of what they do. It's called conquering.

God "divorced" them several times throughout history, but each time He brought them back. This is pretty much the central narrative of the TaNaKh.

Israel's restauration is prophesized by most of the prophets. God's mercies last forever.
 

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No one can be legally kicked off their land. If they're a threat to their neighbors, the neighbors can cut off any contact with them by building walls and water dams along the borders. Any human attempt to drive someone out of their land is morally wrong, regardless of what they do. It's called conquering.
Getting kicked off their land is exactly what God did to the ancient Israelites. They were continually evil in His sight.
God "divorced" them several times throughout history, but each time He brought them back. This is pretty much the central narrative of the TaNaKh.

So God divorced then remarried these people multiple times? I think not. He may have punished them several times, but divorce is final.
Israel's restauration is prophesized by most of the prophets. God's mercies last forever.

It's possible that the "restoration" periods preceeds Christ. In other words, they were punished, they returned.

However, it's clear that Christ said to them that their house is left desolate. Therefore, if anyone has a claim to that land, Jews have the least claim to it, based on both the prophets that they murdered, and Christ's words of whom they murdered.

To believe they have a claim is basically to disregard the fact that God divorced them, and the words of Christ. Therefore they are illegal occupiers, and they are once again displaying their wickedness to the world. Just wait until they build that 3rd temple. Let the animal and human sacrifices begin anew - mocking the God they say they believe in.
 

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As far as I know, it's the only land that puts God in the position of a real-estate agent. Most land in other places passes down from generation to generation

If I, for example, am kicked off my land for some good reason (for example, I'm using it to create some highly dangerous, illegal and harmful substance that poisons my neighbors ground water, air etc) - I no longer have a claim to it, neither any children that I have.

God divorced Israel. Jeremiah 3:8 They were kicked off that land and scattered to Babylon and elsewhere for the evil that they continually did.

It's not "Jewish" land because God hasn't been their God for centuries. He divorced them. They are a foresaken people.

That 'land', the promised land, encompasses much more than present day Israel. And the land is never Israel's land, nor is it the Palestinians land. That land is God's land. He specifically has set His attention and love upon that land. (Lev. 25:23) "The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me."

Israel always has a right and claim to dwell in the land because it was promised to them by God, forever. (Gen. 13:15) "For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed forever." The various judgements by God upon rebellious Israel does not change the promises of God.

You quote (Jer. 3:8) showing God has divorced Israel. And, indeed He has. But if you read on you will see that God promises to bring them back to the land when they repent. (Jer. 3:14-15) And the description of that day in (Jer. 3:16-18) has never occurred. It is yet future. For all nations will acknowledge Jerusalem as the throne of Jehovah. (3:17)

Israel is a nation under the judgement of God. They are not forsaken.

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Getting kicked off their land is exactly what God did to the ancient Israelites. They were continually evil in His sight.


So God divorced then remarried these people multiple times? I think not. He may have punished them several times, but divorce is final.


It's possible that the "restoration" periods preceeds Christ. In other words, they were punished, they returned.

However, it's clear that Christ said to them that their house is left desolate. Therefore, if anyone has a claim to that land, Jews have the least claim to it, based on both the prophets that they murdered, and Christ's words of whom they murdered.

To believe they have a claim is basically to disregard the fact that God divorced them, and the words of Christ. Therefore they are illegal occupiers, and they are once again displaying their wickedness to the world. Just wait until they build that 3rd temple. Let the animal and human sacrifices begin anew - mocking the God they say they believe in.

No. Divorce is not final. For when Israel returns to the land and to God, God will marry her once again. (Hosea 2:19) "And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness...." Read (Hos. 2:14-23)

Yes, Jesus said Israel's house was desolate. (Matt. 23:38) But He also said, "Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." Note the word 'till'.

The Jews are the 'only' ones with a claim to that land.

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Even from a strictly secular perspective, historically speaking, the land belongs to the Jews. Here's a video that explains it in detail, and it's from 12 years ago:

 

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No. Divorce is not final. For when Israel returns to the land and to God, God will marry her once again. (Hosea 2:19) "And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness...." Read (Hos. 2:14-23)

Yes, Jesus said Israel's house was desolate. (Matt. 23:38) But He also said, "Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." Note the word 'till'.

The Jews are the 'only' ones with a claim to that land.

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And you, a "Christian" thinks that "Israel", the people lead by Talmudic Judaism, who's "scriptures" say that Mary was a whore and Christ is burning in human excrement, God is going to marry?

Your faith in this matter seems to hinge entirely upon Jew repentance. They show none. The entire state of Israel is built upon the murder of millions.
 

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And you, a "Christian" thinks that "Israel", the people lead by Talmudic Judaism, who's "scriptures" say that Mary was a whore and Christ is burning in human excrement, God is going to marry?

Your faith in this matter seems to hinge entirely upon Jew repentance. They show none. The entire state of Israel is built upon the murder of millions.

It will be the Jewish people that God will marry. That is the testimony of the Bible, as I just showed you. That is why I believe it.

That marriage is based upon Israel's repentance and return to God. As I also showed you.

But don't think that prior to that day, that God has forsaken Israel. He has not. Read the book of (Esther) and see how God works with the Jews even when they are rebellious and out of the land. It's only 10 chapters.

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Ah! God is so precise when He wants to get a message out by striking down a fat unhealthy older gentleman, but the other millions that weren't stricken that showed similar sentiments will be done in some elusive vague time in the future.
Loads of people who spoke against Jesus stayed alive, but Herod didn't. This made me think of that. I felt sorry for him, but many muslims may get saved because of it.
 
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