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I don't know if Bing's calculations are correct and I'm terrible at math, but, if 1000 Earthly years are like 1 day to God, then Jesus suffered the crucifixion for about 86.4 seconds in God's time.

I don't know what to do with this information.
 

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I don't know if Bing's calculations are correct and I'm terrible at math, but, if 1000 Earthly years are like 1 day to God, then Jesus suffered the crucifixion for about 86.4 seconds in God's time.

I don't know what to do with this information.

God is not a part of the mass/energy that is this His Creation. Thus, time doesn't apply to Him. He can ENTER time but is not a part of or subject to time. Basic High School physics.


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I don't know if Bing's calculations are correct and I'm terrible at math, but, if 1000 Earthly years are like 1 day to God, then Jesus suffered the crucifixion for about 86.4 seconds in God's time.

I don't know what to do with this information.

Treat the 1000 years / 1 day as the metaphor that it is, perhaps?
 

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Treat the 1000 years / 1 day as the metaphor that it is, perhaps?
So, when people started questioning why Jesus promised to return in their lifetime but didn't, the apostle Peter gave them a metaphor as an answer?
 

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God is not a part of the mass/energy that is this His Creation. Thus, time doesn't apply to Him. He can ENTER time but is not a part of or subject to time. Basic High School physics.


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That may be true of the Father but it is not true of the Son.
 

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So, when people started questioning why Jesus promised to return in their lifetime but didn't, the apostle Peter gave them a metaphor as an answer?

Can you quote your chapter and verse, I'm on my tablet and I don't remember the reference offhand.
 

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3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
(2 Peter 3)


Basically, people in the last days (what "last days" he's talking about, I don't know) would start to question why Jesus isn't coming back considering that the apostles kept writing them letters, telling them to live their lives as if the return of Jesus was imminent, and this is what Peter has to say about this.
 

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3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
(2 Peter 3)


Basically, people in the last days (what "last days" he's talking about, I don't know) would start to question why Jesus isn't coming back considering that the apostles kept writing them letters, telling them to live their lives as if the return of Jesus was imminent, and this is what Peter has to say about this.

Talk of the last days is always a good way to generate as many opinions and interpretations as there are participants, so whatever anyone says will be contradicted by many others who can all point at Scriptures to support their views.

I think a key thing to remember with terms like "last days" is that, assuming Christ's second coming is a future event (i.e. the full preterists have misread the texts) and a literal event, we still don't know whether we will live to see it. We don't know how much longer we have to live so "the last days" for me might be the next couple of weeks because I have a medical condition I don't know about or there's an errant truck in my future, they might be the next couple of months because that's when Christ is returning, or they may be in 30-40 years when I die of old age, or anything in between.

It seems like people have thought we are in "the last days" since the concept of "the last days" was first mentioned. And everybody has their own reasons for thinking what they think - it's easy to look at what Jesus said about signs of the end and tick a lot of boxes, but then wars are nothing new, nation rising against nation is nothing new, Christians being persecuted is nothing new, and so on.
 
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