Oneness--coexistent modalism as the true Trinity

[justbyfaith]

Again, what does begotten mean in (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33)?

It means born of.

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Jesus was conceived at the juncture of Luke 1:35 and born nine months later.

 

[Lees]

A concise disagreement with the scripture that I quoted.

I don't think that you're going to get very far if you disagree with holy scripture...

Where is the disagreement with Scripture?

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[Lees]

Not for the statements that you made in the post in question.

I have given you Scripture. Which you fail to address. Why?

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[justbyfaith]

Where is the disagreement with Scripture?

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John 3:16 says that Jesus is God's only begotten Son...

you deny that Jesus was begotten as the 2nd Person of the Trinity.

 

[Lees]

Jesus was conceived at the juncture of Luke 1:35 and born nine months later.

That's not what (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says.

Why can't you answer the question?

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[justbyfaith]

I have given you Scripture. Which you fail to address. Why?

Lees

Your scripture doesn't say what you think it says. You have failed to address my logic concerning your interpretation of your scripture. Why?

 

[Lees]

John 3:16 says that Jesus is God's only begotten Son...

you deny that Jesus was begotten as the 2nd Person of the Trinity.

Jesus is the only begotten. But He was 'begotten' at the Resurrection. As (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says.

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[justbyfaith]

That's not what (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says.

Why can't you answer the question?

Lees

So, Jesus wasn't born into this world nine months after He was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary?

 

[Lees]

Your scripture doesn't say what you think it says. You have failed to address my logic concerning your interpretation of your scripture. Why?

No. (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says exactly what I say it does. Jesus was begotten at the Resurrection, not the incarnation.

Your logic means nothing to me.

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[justbyfaith]

Jesus is the only begotten. But He was 'begotten' at the Resurrection. As (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says.

Lees

But Jesus was born nine months after He was conceived (this is an indisputable fact).

And you admit that "begotten" means "born".

 

[justbyfaith]

No. (Ps. 2:7) and (Acts 13:33) says exactly what I say it does. Jesus was begotten at the Resurrection, not the incarnation.

Your logic means nothing to me.

Lees

Then logic means nothing to you.

 

[Lees]

So, Jesus wasn't born into this world nine months after He was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary?

The Son was given a human body at the incarnation. He would not be 'begotten' of the Father until the Resurrection.

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[Lees]

But Jesus was born nine months after He was conceived (this is an indisputable fact).

And you admit that "begotten" means "born".

Born of.

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[Lees]

Then logic means nothing to you.

Your logic means nothing to me.

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[justbyfaith]

Your logic means nothing to me.

Lees

Then logic means nothing to you.

 

[justbyfaith]

Born of.

Lees

So, again, are you saying that Jesus wasn't really even God until after He rose from the dead?

What does it mean to you that He was "born of" God at the resurrection?

 

[Lees]

Then logic means nothing to you.

Your logic means nothing to me.

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[justbyfaith]

Your logic means nothing to me.

Lees

Then logic means nothing to you.

Want to go again?

I can do this all day.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Son was given a human body at the incarnation. He would not be 'begotten' of the Father until the Resurrection.

Lees

So, He wasn't God until the resurrection?

What does it mean to you that He was "begotten" of the Father at the resurrection?

 

[Lees]

So, again, are you saying that Jesus wasn't really even God until after He rose from the dead?

What does it mean to you that He was "born of" God at the resurrection?

No, why do you ask again? Are you confused?

It means the Son was never begotten. He always existed as the Son with the Father and the Holy Spirit. It means at the incarnation, the Son was given a body. The Son entered the human race. But at the Resurrection the Son, that eternal 2nd Person of the Trinity, with that Body who we know as Jesus, was begotten of God at the Resurrection. (Ps. 2:7) (Acts 13:33)

Scripture is clear.

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