Fear of WWIII and/or Nuclear War

[prism]

Matthew 7:22-23.

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' [23] And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

These people were trusting in their own works, ("have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'") instead of Christ's perfect righteousness.

Besides, If they had been 'born again', Jesus would never have said, "I never knew you".

James 1:18 BSB
He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation.

 

[prism]

I certainly believe Jesus will judge the living and the dead when He returns. But there are judgements at different times. The one when He returns is just before the Millennial reign. (Rev. 20:4) The one in (Rev. 20:7-11) is after the Millennial reign.

Note in (Rev. 20:12) "And I saw the dead...stand before God...." (20:13) "And the sea gave up the dead..." (20:13) "...and death and hell delivered up the dead...." (20:14) "...This is the second death."

This is the Great White Throne judgement. (Rev. 20:11). No believer here. Just the dead.

Lees

Then there is the Judgment of the Nations (right after the Great Tribulation) separating the sheep from the goats according to how they treated the Jews, Christ's brethren, during that evil time...

Matthew 25:31-34,37-40
When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. [32] All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [33] He will place the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. [34] Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [37] Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? [38] When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? [39] When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’ [40] And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’

 

[Josiah]

I don't believe in limbo, so I don't know what you suggest that I do?

Do as I know you do, reject Limbo. And do as I know you do, accept that all souls immediately are received into either heaven or hell. So that at Judgement, there are no surprises and no changes. As I suspect you agree.


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[Stravinsk]

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' [23] And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

These people were trusting in their own works, ("have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'") instead of Christ's perfect righteousness.

Besides, If they had been 'born again', Jesus would never have said, "I never knew you".

James 1:18 BSB
He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation.

Thanks for explaining it to me, but fortunately I can read and the language is crystal clear. Twice Christ mentions what they *do*, not a mental state of trust:

vs 21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

vs 23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It's clear also that in vrs 22, Christ knew exactly that people would be fooled into thinking that their "religious works" (casting out devils, working miracles, prophecy) constituted their primary "Christian life" but is overshadowed by their otherwise sinful works, lack of charity, mercy, good-will etc.

 

[Lees]

Thanks for explaining it to me, but fortunately I can read and the language is crystal clear. Twice Christ mentions what they *do*, not a mental state of trust:

vs 21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

vs 23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It's clear also that in vrs 22, Christ knew exactly that people would be fooled into thinking that their "religious works" (casting out devils, working miracles, prophecy) constituted their primary "Christian life" but is overshadowed by their otherwise sinful works, lack of charity, mercy, good-will etc.

Being able to read crystal clear language in the hands of an unbeliever means nothing. You simply want to use a verse or verses against the Christian. As though the Christian is the one in (Matt. 7:21-23) whom Jesus never knew.

(Matt. 7:21) "he that doeth the will of my Father". What is that will? (John 6:40) "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

Faith always comes first.

You can have charity, and mercy, and good-will, but if you don't have faith, it too is an evil work.

Again, (Matt. 5-7) is not addressed to the Christian.

Lees

 

[prism]

Thanks for explaining it to me, but fortunately I can read and the language is crystal clear.

Reading comprehension in this case is a two-way street.

Twice Christ mentions what they *do*, not a mental state of trust:

Being born again is only 'a state of mind' for those who have not experienced the change.

vs 21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

How much 'doing' must one 'do' before they see the Kingdom of Heaven?

vs 23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Again, the Lord knows who He rebirths, so He wouldn't say, "I never knew you".. unless they weren't born again.

It's clear also that in vrs 22, Christ knew exactly that people would be fooled into thinking that their "religious works" (casting out devils, working miracles, prophecy) constituted their primary "Christian life" but is overshadowed by their otherwise sinful works, lack of charity, mercy, good-will etc.

All 'so called' good works have been deemed sinful, until covered by the Blood of Jesus, then they are no longer 'our works' but are sanctified through His Holy Spirit working in and through us.

Philippians 2:12-13 NCV
My dear friends, you have always obeyed God when I was with you. It is even more important that you obey now while I am away from you. Keep on working to complete your salvation with fear and trembling, [13] because God is working in you to help you want to do and be able to do what pleases him.

 

[Angel Michael]

Wow.

Your God, as described above, sure is blood-thirsty. He "needs" world wars and lots of death for "His purpose for Israel" to "get accomplished".

It couldn't possibly be that the "synagogue of Satan", which Christ mentioned in Revelation, is controlling and influencing things, could it.

Take the "star of David". Made of 6 straight lines, 6 points, with 6 triangles formed on the perimeter. This is also known as the "seal of Solomon", and it is a master symbol in witchcraft and demonology.

But Lees, I'm not surprised.

A man of reason, again. Israel is the country of Satan now. His coming will happen there.

 

[Lees]

A man of reason, again. Israel is the country of Satan now. His coming will happen there.

A man of reason, but not a man of faith, which distorts ones reason.

Why is israel the country of Satan?

Whose coming will happen there. Satan or Christ?

Lees

 

[Stravinsk]

A man of reason, but not a man of faith, which distorts ones reason.

Why is israel the country of Satan?

Whose coming will happen there. Satan or Christ?

Lees

I actually have some faith, but I choose "Deist" for a reason. For one, I don't accept certain things many/most Christians seem to accept. Secondly, there's people that share your sentiments, and I for one don't want to be identified by people like you. Put that in your pipe and smoke it while you pace around your home with a loaded gun * with your mind filled with scenes of murderous muslims that was brought to you by a predominantly Jewish owned media.

 

[Stravinsk]

* =

BLM led a a rally for blacks and Palestinians in support of the Palestinian cause against Israel.

BLM believes the latest butchery by Homas is Israel's fault for suppressing the Palestinians.

BLM identifies with the Palestinians.

What does this mean? It means it won't be long that you will see the same thing that happened to Israel, happen to the U.S. A mixture of Palestinians, blacks, and immigrants from Mexico and Central America will heed the call and produce the same actions. Because they are so oppressed.

America Reframed: Thanks Biden and your administration.

Most will ignore this warning. It can't happen here they assume. Funny, that is how Israel felt also. Then it was too late.

If you have a gun, keep it loaded and at hand. If you don't have one, get one. And have plenty of ammo. When you run out of ammo....you lose.

My opinion.

Lees

 

[Angel Michael]

A man of reason, but not a man of faith, which distorts ones reason.
Why is israel the country of Satan?
Whose coming will happen there. Satan or Christ?

Lees

The beast will come before Jesus Christ in the same temple he will to present himself as the God himself. And do tell where is the temple placed?

 

[Lees]

The beast will come before Jesus Christ in the same temple he will to present himself as the God himself. And do tell where is the temple placed?

And who is the 'beast' you speak of? The Temple is always located in Jerusalem. Right now the Dome of the Rock is in the way. But, no worry, it will be removed and the Temple rebuilt.

Why is Israel the country of Satan?

Lees

 

[Angel Michael]

That's the place Antichrist will arrive. If you are naive, you can read, at least.

 

[Lees]

That's the place Antichrist will arrive. If you are naive, you can read, at least.

Again, who is the beast you speak of?

And, if this beasts actions in the Temple are an abomination, then how can Israel be the country of Satan?

Lees

 

[Angel Michael]

If I would to know how the beast looks like don't you think Bible would make no sense? He will come like a thief in the night which is the whole point of it, to deceive people like you.

 

[Lees]

If I would to know how the beast looks like don't you think Bible would make no sense? He will come like a thief in the night which is the whole point of it, to deceive people like you.

I didn't ask you what the beast looked like. I asked who is this beast you speak of.

Show me in the Bible the beast you are talking about.

And, again, if what the beast does in the Temple in Jerusalem is an abomination, then how can Israel be the country of Satan, which you claimed?

Show me in the Bible where the beast comes as a thief in the night. I think you are confused.

Lees

 

[Angel Michael]

Show me in the Bible the beast you are talking about.

You clearly have no knowledge of the Bible if you never heard of the beast, ahahaha.

13 The dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[b]

9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10 “If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity they will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword they will be killed.”[d]
This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

The Beast out of the Earth​

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

And, again, if what the beast does in the Temple in Jerusalem is an abomination, then how can Israel be the country of Satan, which you claimed?

Ever heard of zionists? Maybe you need to look into it.

Show me in the Bible where the beast comes as a theif in the night. I think you are confused.

For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. - Thessalonian 5:2

 

[Lees]

You clearly have no knowledge of the Bible if you never heard of the beast, ahahaha.

13 The dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[b]

9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10 “If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity they will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword they will be killed.”[d]
This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

The Beast out of the Earth​

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.


Ever heard of zionists? Maybe you need to look into it.

For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. - Thessalonian 5:2

I asked because you just said 'beast'. There are two beasts. I wanted to know which one you were addressing.

And, you need to give Book, chapter and verses to your Bible references.

Again, if the beast defiles the Temple, and what he does is an abomination, then how can Israel be the country of Satan? It's only an abomination to God. Zionism doesn't matter. The Temple is defiled only if the Temple is of God.

The day of the LORD comes as a thief in the night. Not the beast.

Lees

 

[Lees]

I actually have some faith, but I choose "Deist" for a reason. For one, I don't accept certain things many/most Christians seem to accept. Secondly, there's people that share your sentiments, and I for one don't want to be identified by people like you. Put that in your pipe and smoke it while you pace around your home with a loaded gun * with your mind filled with scenes of murderous muslims that was brought to you by a predominantly Jewish owned media.

You can, of course, have faith in whatever you like. But, the only faith that saves is faith in the Person of Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Saviour. My Christian opinion.

Well, you can satisfy yourself, if you like, with the idea that you reject Jesus Christ because of people like me, as though that will have any bearing with God in that day. It won't. Be sure to have as many excuses as you can. I'm sure God will listen to them all. But, when you're done, He will ask you, "But what did you do with my Son?" My Christian opinion.

Concerning your hatred of Jews, you can leap frog backwards in history and always find reasons for cause and affect for the Jews actions in some historical date. But, when you go back far enough, to their origin, (Gen. 12:1-3), it is God who created the Jews and the nation of Israel. And it is God who you really blame for the Jews. And I suppose you can use it as an excuse in that day also. You can justly find fault with some Jews actions. But, guess what His question will be to you. "But what did you do with my Son?" My Christian opinion.

God is not asking you to accept me, or the Jews, in order to be saved. Salvation is found only in Jesus Christ. Only acceptance of Him, faith in Him, results in salvation. And rejection of Him, for whatever reason, results in eternal damnation. My Christian opinion.

Something to think or smoke on.

Lees

 

[John Steed]

To be honest everybody should. This is not about national or world security. But the protection of innocent lives. That have nothing to do with war. Praying it does not get that way but really need to pray very hard.