A necessary evil

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What is a great example of a necessary evil?
 

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What is a great example of a necessary evil?

That is a very complicated question for a Christian to answer. What is defined as evil? Just something bad that happens? Or evil as a force in opposition to God?

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Adam's sin and our judgment in him for his sin was necessary. You will not understand why until you know the reason God created the universe. Paul shares this in Romans and Ephesians if you look for it. I also mention some of the details in: The existence of the universe
 
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Government!
 

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That's good.

But...the problem is, govenment is from God.

Does that mean God does evil?

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No, God does not do evil. I meant it tongue-in-cheek as we all know the part of government that fails is man. Government in of itself is a good thing.
 

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That's good.

But...the problem is, govenment is from God.

Does that mean God does evil?

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No, but government is because we are evil.


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No, but government is because we are evil.


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That is why I said in post #(2) that it is a complicated question for Christians.

Government cannot be a 'necessary evil' because it is of God. It is a necessary 'good'. But because of fallen man, there is much evil in it.

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That is why I said in post #(2) that it is a complicated question for Christians.

Government cannot be a 'necessary evil' because it is of God. It is a necessary 'good'. But because of fallen man, there is much evil in it.

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The age-old question? . "If God is good and wants to eliminate sin, but cannot, he is not omnipotent (all powerful); but if God is omnipotent and can eliminate sin, but does not, he is not good. God cannot be both omnipotent and good." But scripture says he is both omnipotent and good.

Gordon Clark (Presbyterian) solves the problem of sin this way.

By definition God cannot sin. At this point it must be particularly pointed out that God’s causing a man to sin is not sin. There is no law, superior to God, which forbids him to decree sinful acts. Sin presupposes a law, for sin is lawlessness. Sin is any want of conformity unto or transgression of the law of God. But God is “Ex-lex.”
 
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