The mistake of preaching only happiness

[Hammster]

Not at all, I care little the circumstances God doesnt change

Then why the inconsistency? You cannot say on one hand that Christ still heals those who don't have faith, and then on the other that my wife isn't healed because of the fallen world and because you don't know the circumstances.

Your two views do not match up.

 

[psalms 91]

Then why the inconsistency? You cannot say on one hand that Christ still heals those who don't have faith, and then on the other that my wife isn't healed because of the fallen world and because you don't know the circumstances.

Your two views do not match up.

You can come against me all you wish but it doesnt change the fact that God knows and if you cant hear the answer that is not on me. The time spent telling me all this is better spent in prayer and asking Him why

 

[Hammster]

You can come against me all you wish but it doesnt change the fact that God knows and if you cant hear the answer that is not on me. The time spent telling me all this is better spent in prayer and asking Him why

This isn't about you, so stop playing the victim. It's not how men should act. You have done this every time your views are challenged.

Your view is untenable. If I tell you why my wife hasn't been healed, it will go directly against what you claim is the truth. I guess that's why you've refused to pray for my wife. You know that if you do, and she's not healed, then your view is destroyed. So you'd rather put the burden on me and make it look like my problem.

However, if you pray for my wife and she is healed, then you win. And I will gladly admit you are right. I want my wife healed. And since I apparently don't have the great faith that you do, you should humble yourself to at least pray for my wife. She has nothing to do with our disagreements.

 

[Krissy Cakes]

Praying for your wife Chris. ray:

I don't believe everyone will be healed as they can be a testimony to someone. I have prayed and prayed for healing over myself and nothing. So I believe I am suppose to use my disability to help someone.

 

[Hammster]

Praying for your wife Chris. rayer:

I don't believe everyone will be healed as they can be a testimony to someone. I have prayed and prayed for healing over myself and nothing. So I believe I am suppose to use my disability to help someone.

Thank you. While I still pray for her health, we've seen how God has used her illness.

Prayers for you as well.

 

[Krissy Cakes]

Thank you. While I still pray for her health, we've seen how God has used her illness.

Prayers for you as well.

Thank you. :hug2:

 

[Lamb]

Sometimes I see on Facebook prayer requests for children with inoperable or non-curable diseases and these children have had over a million people pray. Do you mean there is not one true person with faith out of a million? I don't believe it.

 

[psalms 91]

This isn't about you, so stop playing the victim. It's not how men should act. You have done this every time your views are challenged.

Your view is untenable. If I tell you why my wife hasn't been healed, it will go directly against what you claim is the truth. I guess that's why you've refused to pray for my wife. You know that if you do, and she's not healed, then your view is destroyed. So you'd rather put the burden on me and make it look like my problem.

However, if you pray for my wife and she is healed, then you win. And I will gladly admit you are right. I want my wife healed. And since I apparently don't have the great faith that you do, you should humble yourself to at least pray for my wife. She has nothing to do with our disagreements.

Actually I have prayed for her and will continue to do so

 

[Hammster]

Actually I have prayed for her and will continue to do so

She's not healed.

 

[psalms 91]

Then you continue in prayer and believe she will be healed

 

[tango]

Then you continue in prayer and believe she will be healed

Continuing in prayer is obviously a good thing but to assume that she will be healed goes right back to the whole issue of assuming everything will be great in this world when Jesus quite clearly said it wouldn't. How do we "take up our cross" if we're allowed to pick and choose which cross we will carry? Whether our cross is being hated by the world, being sick, being poor, being persecuted, whatever, if we expect to be able to hand it back and choose an easier one then we're putting the comforts of this world ahead of the calling of Christ, no?

 

[Hammster]

Then you continue in prayer and believe she will be healed

You aren't seeing the deficiency of your view. You say that Jesus heals in the same way today that He did in His earthly ministry. When He healed, it was immediate. Yet my wife is still sick.

It's a moment of truth for you, Bill. It's time for you to admit that your view, while noble, is not biblical. It's time to abandon that part of your tradition. If you don't, you've put your tradition over the truth.

 

[Lamb]

If these people of great faith had such great faith in the first place, they wouldn't get sick because their faith wouldn't allow it. I don't know a single being with the exception of Jesus the Christ who hasn't gotten sick (unless it was a baby who died of course).

 

[psalms 91]

You aren't seeing the deficiency of your view. You say that Jesus heals in the same way today that He did in His earthly ministry. When He healed, it was immediate. Yet my wife is still sick.

It's a moment of truth for you, Bill. It's time for you to admit that your view, while noble, is not biblical. It's time to abandon that part of your tradition. If you don't, you've put your tradition over the truth.

Actually some healings were progressive over time and lets face it many were sick for a long time and the were healed, so no, it wasnt always immediate

 

[Hammster]

Actually some healings were progressive over time and lets face it many were sick for a long time and the were healed, so no, it wasnt always immediate

Examples of these?

 

[psalms 91]

The blind man that did not see clearly at first is one for progressive and also the man that the question was asked who sinned? And the answer was noone done for the glory of God, also the woman with the issue of blood was innher case about 20 years . And I am sure that there are more but that uis what I remember off the top of my head.

 

[Hammster]

The blind man that did not see clearly at first is one for progressive and also the man that the question was asked who sinned? And the answer was noone done for the glory of God, also the woman with the issue of blood was innher case about 20 years . And I am sure that there are more but that uis what I remember off the top of my head.

They were both healed that same day. And the one who progressively healed was healed.

My wife's not feeling better. Will you ever repeat of your false teaching? Or are you satisfied with giving false hope?

 

[J. M. Spader]

It's quite worrying to see people holding on to what they wish were true instead of actual truth set out in the Word.

Show me a 'faith healer' and I'll show you a charlatan on a stage instead of genuine, divinely-gifted person in the hospitals healing the unregenerate and turning them to Christ as well as the faithful.

Naming and claiming doesn't work. Repeating the same heresy isn't going to make it truth either.

 

[psalms 91]

They were both healed that same day. And the one who progressively healed was healed.

My wife's not feeling better. Will you ever repeat of your false teaching? Or are you satisfied with giving false hope?

You do like to press dont you? I know God heals as I have been healed. You still avoid answering if you can hear God and if you have asked Him? He is the one with the ultimate answers

 

[Brighten04]

If people are not being heal today by the laying on of hands in the name of Jesus, we need to ask ourselves why not. I have found that people fight to remain sick. Why? I don't know. And they will chop your head off if you suggest that Jesus will heal them. It will not happen if people cannot or will not believe He is willing to heal them and forgive their sins.

Matt. 9:28 When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?”

“Yes, Lord,” they replied.

29 Then he touched their eyes and said, “According to your faith let it be done to you”; 30 and their sight was restored. Jesus warned them sternly, “See that no one knows about this.” 31 But they went out and spread the news about him all over that region.

All of the people who were healed in the Bible believed they would receive. I have seen people healed of cancers, emotional problems, addictions, HIV,,etc. And it is not the preacher. It is believers laying on hands. If one can believe, one can receive.Any believer who is full of the Holy Spirit has the power to lay on their hands in the name of Jesus. But healing is not going to happen if you don't believe it will happen as Jesus demonstrated in the passage above.. It is the trick of the enemy for believers to believe that our Father is not willing to heal them when His word clearly teaches that He is very willing. And stop owning disease and sickness saying my this or my that. That is a bad habit. Stop it. They even have commercials on t.v. teaching people to claim sickness and own it. It seems to me that it makes more sense to claim healing than to claim sickness. And stop catching stuff. Fight it off. I don't catch colds and flu. If I start having a symptom, I fight it off by confessing with my mouth that I will not be sick. It took me years to learn this. I only learned it in my latter years. And I am still learning from the Holy Spirit how to continue to walk in my healing. Here are some healing scripture that you can start listening to to believe,, reading, saying, and calling that thing that be not as though it be. The work Lord Jesus did on the cross bore all of our sins and griefs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lq27rn8lA