Overturning Roe Vs Wade

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Reversing Rowe v Wade doesn't return the matter to states. It returns the matter to legislatures. That is, there could still be Federal legislation. Obviously there won't be while Biden is president, but Mcconnell told USA Today that it was possible Republicans would propose it. He's now backpedaling. But the next time Republicans take all 3 branches, it's certainly possible.

If the Supreme Court found that unconstitutional (which I doubt), we already have precedent from the Civil Rights era: a law against violating the civil rights of the unborn.
 
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Reversing Rowe v Wade doesn't return the matter to states. It returns the matter to legislatures. That is, there could still be Federal legislation. Obviously there won't be while Biden is president, but Mcconnell told USA Today that it was possible Republicans would propose it. He's now backpedaling. But the next time Republicans take all 3 branches, it's certainly possible.

If the Supreme Court found that unconstitutional (which I doubt), we already have precedent from the Civil Rights era: a law against violating the civil rights of the unborn.

How do you mean the matter won't be returned to the states? That's the whole point of our Constitution.

McConnell's quote is misrepresented by most media, the full quote also said (that besides it's possible) but noted that such a discussion is premature. So he wasn't presenting something but the media decided to run with it and cause the panic that has taken over the nation. There's a lot of misconceptions about what is happening and what's going to happen and drama sells news.
 

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How do you mean the matter won't be returned to the states? That's the whole point of our Constitution.

McConnell's quote is misrepresented by most media, the full quote also said (that besides it's possible) but noted that such a discussion is premature. So he wasn't presenting something but the media decided to run with it and cause the panic that has taken over the nation. There's a lot of misconceptions about what is happening and what's going to happen and drama sells news.
Of course it’s premature. The decision hadn’t happened. But I think it’s clear that it will. In that case his statement becomes operational. Yes, he only said it was possible. I noted that as long as Biden is president it couldn’t become law. It unlikely that Republicans would be willing to pay the cost for an empty gesture. But I was responding to your claim that a decision would return things to the states. In fact the federal legislature would also have power. Maybe it will exercise it and maybe it won’t. But it’s there, as McConnell noted.
 

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1. If the SCOTUS overturns Roe v. Wade all that does is end the LIE, the embarrassing lie... by a majority of one, the judges insisted in 1973 that the US Constitution states that abortion is permitted. It does not. Even some pro-choice people admit that. That decision would NOT make ANY abortion illegal, it just ends the lie about what the Constitution says. That ruling doesn't end abortion, it ends the lie.


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The US Congress could "codify" Roe v. Wade - and it tried to do so and failed. The reason is clear: it's a very, very radical position that aligns us with North Korea, insisting that abortion is just a contraceptive equal to a condom, that NO life is present until the last cell of the last toe is permitted to exit the birth canal - no boy, no girl, no baby, no life - just a lifeless glob of dead cells. And no state can restrict it - because it's not a medical procedure, it's just a contraceptive. If the person is giving birth... and the head comes out... a person can push on the head to keep the rest inside, slit the throat of the not-living IT and that CANNOT be forbidden or limited or regulated. What the Demcrats voted for (except for one) is the most radical, extreme, offensive abortion policy.

IF Congress ever does come up with a national policy on this, it's going to be MUCH, MUCH more rational and reasonable. Hum, very much like the Mississippi law the SCOTUS is considering, much like the national policies of Germany, Austria, France, Denmark, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgian, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Poland, Japan and most countries (except North Korea). Rejecting that abortion STOPS conception. Rejecting that at no time is there a life here, at no time is there a baby, at no time is there a human - just a lifeless, dead blob of cells. Rejecting that there is no "mother" until that last toe exits. Accepting that at some point, we clearly have a LIFE here, a HUMAN life, a BABY - and that's significant. Women have no Constitutional right to terminate a human life. This is serious stuff. It should be limited and regulated, at least. WHEN is that point? Well, everyone would disagree with the 49 Democrats - it's NOT when someone allows the last toe of the lifeless IT to exit the birth canal and doesn't cover the mouth and smother it. Most put it at heartbeat (probably before the 15 weeks of the Mississippi law) others perhaps at viability (well before the 39 weeks the Democrats wanted). IF the Congress ever comes up with a law, I hope it will be more in line with civilized nations with some sense of human rights and not with North Korea.


3. It returns things to the states, it seems NONE will outlaw abortions but about half will align with most civilized nations and come up with something similar to the Mississippi policy. And about half will align with North Korea and insist that it's just contraception and there is no baby, no girl, no boy, no mother, not even a life, just a lifeless glob of nothing and you can't slit the neck of a baby because there is no baby, you can't kill something that's not alive.




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Reversing Rowe v Wade doesn't return the matter to states. It returns the matter to legislatures. That is, there could still be Federal legislation. Obviously there won't be while Biden is president, but Mcconnell told USA Today that it was possible Republicans would propose it. He's now backpedaling. But the next time Republicans take all 3 branches, it's certainly possible.

If the Supreme Court found that unconstitutional (which I doubt), we already have precedent from the Civil Rights era: a law against violating the civil rights of the unborn.

Reversing Rowe v Wade returns the issue of abortion back to the states. Where it belongs. Let the States handle it.

The Federal govt has it's hands in everything, and look at us. Extremely divided. Why? Because the Fed's want their way irregardless.

The Feds want the control...the power. They don't want a State to defy 'them'.

This is why the liberals and Feds have a problem with the Constitution. Which is why they always want to change it.

History 101.

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