Why did Jesus say almsgiving purges sin?

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“Then the Lord said to him, ‘Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and dish clean, but your inward part is full of greed and wickedness. Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? But rather give alms of such things as you have; then indeed all things are clean to you.’ “
-Luke 11:39-41

I looked up the definition of purge:

PURGE, v.t. purj. [L. purgo.]
1. To cleanse or purify by separating and carrying off whatever is impure,
2. To clear from guilt or moral defilement; as,to purge one of guilt or crime; to purge away sin.


Any idea why Jesus is agreeing with Tobit?
 

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“Then the Lord said to him, ‘Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and dish clean, but your inward part is full of greed and wickedness. Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? But rather give alms of such things as you have; then indeed all things are clean to you.’ “
-Luke 11:39-41

I looked up the definition of purge:

PURGE, v.t. purj. [L. purgo.]
1. To cleanse or purify by separating and carrying off whatever is impure,
2. To clear from guilt or moral defilement; as,to purge one of guilt or crime; to purge away sin.


Any idea why Jesus is agreeing with Tobit?

Who knows? We can't take everything he says to be literal... I mean earlier in verse 24 he talks of a demon leaving a man and going to a dry place lol yeah that sounds a lot like that demon in Tobit that went back to Egpyt after being cast out... like get real... and then he started going on about the Wisdom of Solomon, a made up book.
Jesus probably meant something else, something deep and symbolic, anything as long as it isn't in any of those silly books from the Catholics "other canon"

 

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[Matthew 12:35-37 ESV]
The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."​

(Jesus said that, too.)
 

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[Matthew 12:35-37 ESV]
The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."​

(Jesus said that, too.)
Are you saying that the Pharisee that offered Jesus his table was basically rendering the law of kosher to no effect with his outburst of ridicule and disgust toward his guest in attempts to shame and humilate him?

Because I agree

Tobit is an outstanding example of how the hardened Pharisee SHOULD have behaved as a faithful and humble servant of the Lord.
Tobias never complained of his guest having him carry around smelly rotten fish guts and his words were always polite and fruitful, he was a humble servant and far more righteous than the Pharisee that dined with Jesus.
 

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[Matthew 12:35-37 ESV]
The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."​

(Jesus said that, too.)

What’s your point? I’m not following
 

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“Then the Lord said to him, ‘Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and dish clean, but your inward part is full of greed and wickedness. Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? But rather give alms of such things as you have; then indeed all things are clean to you.’ “
-Luke 11:39-41

I looked up the definition of purge:

PURGE, v.t. purj. [L. purgo.]
1. To cleanse or purify by separating and carrying off whatever is impure,
2. To clear from guilt or moral defilement; as,to purge one of guilt or crime; to purge away sin.


Any idea why Jesus is agreeing with Tobit?
This isn't about sin, at least not directly. The Pharisees followed, indeed elaborated upon, OT purity rules. Jesus did not accept purity as a goal. Rather, love and obedience. He's commenting here on rules designed to maintain ritual cleanness, which was part of the whole purity culture. He is saying if you love others, that constitutes your cleanness, not following the purity rules.

He teaches plenty about God forgiving sins, but this passage isn't directly about that.
 

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This isn't about sin, at least not directly. The Pharisees followed, indeed elaborated upon, OT purity rules. Jesus did not accept purity as a goal. Rather, love and obedience. He's commenting here on rules designed to maintain ritual cleanness, which was part of the whole purity culture. He is saying if you love others, that constitutes your cleanness, not following the purity rules.

He teaches plenty about God forgiving sins, but this passage isn't directly about that.

It isn’t about sin? He specifically mentions greed and wickedness. How is that not about sin?
 

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It isn’t about sin? He specifically mentions greed and wickedness. How is that not about sin?
Of course Jesus rejected greed and wickedness, but his objection in those verses was to their insistence on the purity law. The greed and wickedness would add hypocrisy to the problems, but he didn't object to the purity laws just because the people advocating them were wicked.
 

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Of course Jesus rejected greed and wickedness, but his objection in those verses was to their insistence on the purity law. The greed and wickedness would add hypocrisy to the problems, but he didn't object to the purity laws just because the people advocating them were wicked.

He said give alms and all things are clean to you.
 
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