Who are you gentile?

[eddif]

Were you once separated from God?
Do you recognize you are not a natural branch?
As a grafted in branch are you humble?
Do you need to beware of being broken off yourself?
Do you know the Natural Branch.

I suppose Romans 3 and Romans 11 are a good place to start.

In the first few verses of Romans 3 who has the advantage.

 

[eddif]

Romans 3:1 kjv
1. What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2. Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

To start a study of Gentiles, first find out who has the advantage.

The Gentiles do not have a background of knowing God. Peter went to Cornelius to preach the gospel. The gentile inclusion really fully begins there.

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[eddif]

Or if you look at previous prophets speaking of the Gentiles, it had to happen.

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[Josiah]

In Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile.

Galatians 3:28



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[Lamb]

I'm a child of God and that's all that matters.

 

[eddif]

In Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile.

Galatians 3:28



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Has every one in the world come to Christ Jesus?
Are there Jews that have not accepted Jesus?
Are there Gentiles that have not accepted Jesus?
Let us seek to be fishers of men. The message of the Gospel goes to Jew and gentile alike.

I do not want to promote any other way to eternal life but Jesus. The law is part of drawing everyone to Jesus.
Paul went to the Gentiles. Peter went to the jews mainly, but was instrumental in bringing in the Gentiles.

When everyone is saved all my conversation is over. Till that time repentance is needed. Baptism into Christ is needed. Baptism in the Holy Spirit is needed. Teaching all things is needed.
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[Lamb]

Has every one in the world come to Christ Jesus?
Are there Jews that have not accepted Jesus?
Are there Gentiles that have not accepted Jesus?
Let us seek to be fishers of men. The message of the Gospel goes to Jew and gentile alike.

I do not want to promote any other way to eternal life but Jesus. The law is part of drawing everyone to Jesus.
Paul went to the Gentiles. Peter went to the jews mainly, but was instrumental in bringing in the Gentiles.

When everyone is saved all my conversation is over. Till that time repentance is needed. Baptism into Christ is needed. Baptism in the Holy Spirit is needed. Teaching all things is needed.
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Josiah began his sentence with "In Christ".

 

[eddif]

I'm a child of God and that's all that matters.

All that matters for those who have received Jesus. What about those who feel their salvation is based on Jewish beliefs or gentile church attendance? Those who have not had an inner heart change?

I labor in the area of doctrine.

 

[eddif]

Josiah began his sentence with "In Christ".

So do we not leave the 99 safe in the fold and go after the lost?

 

[eddif]

The resurrection has not already passed. I have not passed the changes of the last trump. You can find errors in me (sin if you wish to call it that).
I do not preach myself, but Jesus Christ and him crucified.

 

[Lamb]

Well, the majority of the people on this site are Christian and attribute that to God's love and mercy through His Son Jesus Christ.

As we live our days we spread the Gospel to those who listen because God's Word does not return to Him empty.

Of course you sin. We all sin since we still live in these sinful bodies. That doesn't mean that God is going to cast us into hell since we are believers. Our sins were forgiven at the cross.

 

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Romans 11:21 kjv
21. For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

We work out our salvation with fear and trembling. We are not haughty or proud. With the mind we serve the law of God with the body the law of sin. We are delivered from this by Jesus.

Am I allowed to continue?
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[eddif]

And the last post made I had not read your last post. Generally we are on the same page over and over again.

 

[atpollard]

Were you once separated from God?
Do you recognize you are not a natural branch?
As a grafted in branch are you humble?
Do you need to beware of being broken off yourself?
Do you know the Natural Branch.

Yes, I was once separated from God. Except for Christ, is that not true of all men (although Adam chose to work the process in reverse)? Was not Abram once separated from God until God called him to leave his home and journey to a promised land? Was Moses not separated from God until called back by a burning bush?

Since all men are born “missing the mark”, are we not all “not a natural branch”? There is only one natural branch, the root and the vine from which all branches draw life. Those grafted long ago and those grafted recently. It is only the mercy of God that blesses a thousand generations of those that love and serve Him.

I am more than humble. I am utterly incredulous that God should choose to love me over so many far more deserving. I know my filthy rags to be more filthy than most.

I have no fear of being broken off. I did not graft myself on, God grafted me on, so only God can chop me off. I did not deserve to be grafted on, so it is the same love that drew me to the vine that will hold me fast to the vine. I have no righteousness of my own to offer, only the righteousness of Christ to trust in.

I know the Natural Branch. He chose me; I did not choose Him.

 

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atpollard
Read Romans 11 to identify the natural branch.
I think you will see the Jewish problems.

 

[pinacled]

Yes, I was once separated from God. Except for Christ, is that not true of all men (although Adam chose to work the process in reverse)? Was not Abram once separated from God until God called him to leave his home and journey to a promised land? Was Moses not separated from God until called back by a burning bush?

Since all men are born “missing the mark”, are we not all “not a natural branch”? There is only one natural branch, the root and the vine from which all branches draw life. Those grafted long ago and those grafted recently. It is only the mercy of God that blesses a thousand generations of those that love and serve Him.

I am more than humble. I am utterly incredulous that God should choose to love me over so many far more deserving. I know my filthy rags to be more filthy than most.

I have no fear of being broken off. I did not graft myself on, God grafted me on, so only God can chop me off. I did not deserve to be grafted on, so it is the same love that drew me to the vine that will hold me fast to the vine. I have no righteousness of my own to offer, only the righteousness of Christ to trust in.

I know the Natural Branch. He chose me; I did not choose Him.

Wild or natural an olive is still an olive.

Blessings Always

 

[eddif]

Since all men are born “missing the mark”, are we not all “not a natural branch”? There is only one natural branch, the root and the vine from which all branches draw life. Those grafted long ago and those grafted recently. It is only the mercy of God that blesses a thousand generations of those that love and serve Him.

I seem to get there are at least 2 major branches.
The Jewish chosen (natural) branch,
And
The wild olive (?) branch that was later grafted
Into the vine.
I have not yet gotten it totally all together.

if Jesus said I am the vine and you are the branches could that leave the father as the root?

I look forward to the day when we see all this clearly, for now we see through (welding?) glasses dimly.
let us all keeping on asking and receiving from God.
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[atpollard]

I always took away a feeling closer to “God has no grandchildren”. One either IS abiding in Christ or one is not.

For the Jews:

[Rom 9:6-8 NKJV] 6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they [are] not all Israel who [are] of Israel, 7 nor [are they] all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called." 8 That is, those who [are] the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.​

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For the Gentiles:

[Rom 11:19-22 NKJV] 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in." 20 Well [said]. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in [His] goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.​

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In both cases it is about “abiding” ... that ongoing walk that is either with God and in Christ, or it is not.
If you ain’t got Jesus, you got nothing ... cause the rest don’t amount to a hill a beans.