World China can still be conquered, invaded, and subjugated for the purpose of regime change and economic exploitation.

[Bouan Philippe]

China could be easily conquered, invaded, and subjugated by "Jesus's mighty angels" in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9.

Please comment.

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[tango]

Somehow I suspect that the God who guided Gideon into battle with 300 men and defeated tens of thousands, who struck Egypt with plagues, who rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, would have little trouble taking out a secular kingdom today.

I'm not sure that "God is omnipotent" is a concept that takes an entire book to discuss.

 

[Lamb]

China could be easily conquered, invaded, and subjugated by "Jesus's mighty angels" in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9.

Please comment.

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Jareth Tempest is an occultist...why is a Christian interested in his version of things instead of the Bible?

 

[Bouan Philippe]

Jareth Tempest is an occultist...why is a Christian interested in his version of things instead of the Bible?

How do you know that Jesus himself is not an occultist in regards to the allusion of a supernatural weapon in Isaiah 63:6 and his summoning angels in Revelation 19:14?

Romans 1:20 points to the fact that the Bible itself is not the only witness of God, but the Creation itself is also a witness of God's divine attributes.

Now, to look for God in the Creation means that man made contrivances such as scientific theories, music, art, poetry, and literature are also part of his Creation because all the great intellectual thinkers were created by God.

Of course, it includes Jareth Tempest's invented method of summoning angels for the purpose of spiritual attack and warfare in heaven.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

Somehow I suspect that the God who guided Gideon into battle with 300 men and defeated tens of thousands, who struck Egypt with plagues, who rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, would have little trouble taking out a secular kingdom today.

I'm not sure that "God is omnipotent" is a concept that takes an entire book to discuss.

It doesn't actually say that "God is omnipotent", but it says that the "Angels are also omnipotent", since they were created to be messengers and servants of the Lord.

 

[Lamb]

The occult: supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena apart from Jesus Christ.

The occult is not going to be promoted here on Christianity Haven.

I have removed the image promoting the occultist's book. Please do not promote it here.

 

[tango]

It doesn't actually say that "God is omnipotent", but it says that the "Angels are also omnipotent", since they were created to be messengers and servants of the Lord.

I really see little point continuing this discussion. Messengers and servants don't carry the same authority or power as the one who sent them.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

I really see little point continuing this discussion. Messengers and servants don't carry the same authority or power as the one who sent them.

They don't carry the same authority or power as the one who sent them, but remember that Philippians 2 says that Jesus became lower than the angels by taking the incarnation of a human, and the war of Armageddon cannot be fought and won without the assistance of angelic armies in heaven.

Why do you think that Jesus is specifically mentioned alongside the angels in Revelation 19:14?

Unless the angels are relevant and important in Armageddon why mention them at all?

 

[Lamb]

They don't carry the same authority or power as the one who sent them, but remember that Philippians 2 says that Jesus became lower than the angels by taking the incarnation of a human, and the war of Armageddon cannot be fought and won without the assistance of angelic armies in heaven.

Why do you think that Jesus is specifically mentioned alongside the angels in Revelation 19:14?

Unless the angels are relevant and important in Armageddon why mention them at all?

The angels obey our Triune God.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

I really see little point continuing this discussion. Messengers and servants don't carry the same authority or power as the one who sent them.

Why are you so eager to end this conversation?

Is it due to your newfound confidence that the situation of military joint operations would prevent a successful invasion of the USA?

 

[Bouan Philippe]

The angels obey our Triune God.

They are subordinate to the Triune God, but their role is still key and central to Armageddon.

As attested by Revelation 19:14.

 

[Lamb]

They are subordinate to the Triune God, but their role is still key and central to Armageddon.

As attested by Revelation 19:14.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Christ's victory is His and the verse above should be viewed in terms of history and how the Roman's would celebrate their victories by leading their army out and then behind them would be the captives.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Christ's victory is His and the verse above should be viewed in terms of history and how the Roman's would celebrate their victories by leading their army out and then behind them would be the captives.

Consequently, any country can still be conquered, invaded, and subjugated, which includes China and the US.

Regardless of size, they can still be toppled.

 

[Lamb]

Consequently, any country can still be conquered, invaded, and subjugated, which includes China and the US.

Regardless of size, they can still be toppled.

What's your point?

 

[Bouan Philippe]

What's your point?

The point is self evidently obvious.

Can't you see that I am serious about invading China and the US once I become President of the Republic?

It is not mere speculation, but a serious matter.

Reading Mein Kampf you would know that Hitler was serious about German Lebensraum, but it's not something to laugh about.

PS. Although I don't support Hitler his war against Britain and France must be seen as retribution for the Treaty of Versailles in 1918.

Armageddon and eschatology is also based on the idea of retribution, according to 2 Thessalonians 1:8, whereby the word "vengeance" is very clearly stated.

 

[Origen]

Reading Mein Kampf you would know that Hitler was serious about German Lebensraum, but it's not something to laugh about.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

This Ad Hominem doesn't prove your point, nor does it disprove what I have already said.

It's a fallacy of reasoning which serves no purpose whatsoever.

More importantly, can you prove that China is impervious from invasion?

 

[Origen]

This Ad Hominem doesn't prove your point, nor does it disprove what I have already said.

 

[Bouan Philippe]

Still, can you prove that China is impervious from all out foreign invasion?

 

[Origen]

Still, can you prove that China is impervious from all out foreign invasion?