Did Jesus celebrate the Holiday that commemorates the Maccabees?

[pinacled]

It mentions two feast and during that time Jesus stays in Jerusalem preaching in the Temple, Jews would make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem to the Temple during the two feasts because it symbolized God taking them out of Egypt and leading them to the promised land as they followed the LIGHT. Now they don't have a Temple, the significance is Jesus says during that time that HE is the light and the Jews who attempted to stone him foreshadows the Temple being destroyed and the unbelieving Jews to this day expect a 3rd Temple that will never happen because Jesus is the 3rd Temple and they reject Him

What?
2 feast?

 

[pinacled]

The RCC and the EOC might have some goofy ideas but not as goofy as taking the word of Jerome's unbelieving Rabbis who's canon cuts off the prophet John and their Messiah -over the uncut Septuagint used by early Christians even quoting from it over 300+ times and used up to this day

Heheh.
Uncircumcised septigugu.

Ah the argony

 

[Andrew]

Exactly where did I make that claim? Be specific! Please provide the link.

"And there is clear evidence that many did not" why else would you state that your evidence or lack there of somehow shows that the majority in contrast to your claims is now irrelevant?

How did uninspired fairy tales make it into the Holy Bible in the first place if early Christians didn't accept them?
You and Josiah cannot answer this question, I have asked it about a dozen times by now.

 

[pinacled]

Approximately 500 Million Protestants and 15 million Jews do not accept Maccabees as canon

Approximately 1.1 Billion Roman Catholics and 250 million Eastern Orthodox do

Where'd you get those numbers?

 

[Andrew]

What?
2 feast?

John 7:2 to 10:22

 

[pinacled]

I doubt Jesus was celebrating the feast of dedication. It looks to me John 10:22 is just setting the stage for the scene in which Jesus and a group of unnamed Jews have a conversation that ultimately turns hostile and ends with Jesus slipping away from them. There is no real reason one should look at the verse as Jesus supporting the celebration as nothing he did in that passage had anything to do with a celebration of any kind. He could have had that conversation at anytime and it still would have fit with or without the celebration going on.

I would also say a margin note in a 16th century copy isn't really proving anything either as it is too far away from the original to mean anything. It would be one thing if the proof was dated closer to the time of the book being written. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to believe this footnote was just added in by someone from the 16th period trying to convince people of their day that Macabees is scripture much like Nathan is doing right now. That's my take on it.

Excellently well written post.

 

[Andrew]

Where'd you get those numbers?

Would it change your mind?

It's called demographics/census

 

[pinacled]

John 7:2 to 10:22

Sukkot is Torah.
Deuteronomy 16:16

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Where as the festival of lights is not.
You wrote in a way to compare the 2 as equally commanded.
[ Jews would make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem to the Temple during the two feasts because it symbolized God taking them out of Egypt and leading them to the promised land as they followed the LIGHT.]

Why?

 

[Origen]

"And there is clear evidence that many did not" why else would you state that your evidence or lack there of somehow shows that the majority in contrast to your claims is now irrelevant?

You are misrepresenting my comment.

First, I NEVER used the word "majority."

Second, the word "many" does not mean "majority."

Third, if I meant "majority," then I would have used that word. Since I did not use that word, clearly that was not what I meant.

 

[Andrew]

Sukkot is Torah.
Deuteronomy 16:16

6 Bible verses about Three Times A Year

A topical Bible which shows the most relevant Bible verse for each topic

bible.knowing-jesus.com

Where as the festival of lights is not.
You wrote in a way to compare the 2 as equally commanded.

Why?

The feast of tabernacles and sukkot are the same thing, do some actual research friend

 

[Andrew]

You are misrepresenting my comment.

First, I NEVER used the word "majority."

Second, the word "many" does not mean "majority."

Third, if I meant "majority," then I would have used that word. Since I did not use that word, clearly that was not what I meant.

Fair enough, Nathan said many so you said many, I believe he was speaking of evidence to his "many" and you were speaking of lack of evidence as being "many". I suggest many as close to the majority, perhaps maybe just a few or none of the first Christians rejected the books of Maccabees, what reason would they??

 

[pinacled]

The feast of tabernacles and sukkot are the same thing, do some actual research friend

Please answer why you called the feasts of dedication a command of The Lord in comparison to sukkot?

 

[Origen]

perhaps maybe just a few or none of the first Christians rejected the books of Maccabees, what reason would they??

All we have are the canon lists and comments made by the Church Fathers and other theologians. As I have continually pointed out some did accept it and others rejected as it Scripture.

 

[Andrew]

Please answer why you called the feasts of dedication a command of The Lord?

God never commanded the Jews to reenact the Exodus, they made it a holiday to observe a Holy event the same way we have a holiday for the birth of Christ and His Resurrection..

 

[Andrew]

All we have are the canon lists and comments made by the Church Fathers and other theologians. As I have continually pointed out some did accept it and others rejected as it Scripture.

So Clement of Rome, a disciple of Paul the apostle, was ignorant of scripture and "some" Christians with outstanding and credible discernment of scripture were far more learned than he because they had the ability to foresee the canon of books in their septuagint?

 

[Origen]

So Clement of Rome, a disciple of Paul the apostle, was ignorant of scripture and "some" Christians with outstanding and credible discernment of scripture were far more learned than he because they had the ability to foresee the canon of books in their septuagint?

Please stop trying to put words into my mouth. I NEVER suggested anything like that. Clearly you have not read what I have written.

 

[pinacled]

God never commanded the Jews to reenact the Exodus, they made it a holiday to observe a Holy event the same way we have a holiday for the birth of Christ and His Resurrection..

What?
The Lord gave an everlasting ordinance called pesach or passover which is one of the three Holy days.

But you added to The Lords Word when comparing the feast of dedication to The Holy days given by The Most High.

And i asked why?

 

[pinacled]

So Clement of Rome, a disciple of Paul the apostle, was ignorant of scripture and "some" Christians with outstanding and credible discernment of scripture were far more learned than he because they had the ability to foresee the canon of books in their septuagint?

I thought that the mythological 1rst Pope was a disciple of peter?

 

[Andrew]

I thought that the mythological 1rst Pope was a disciple of peter?

Shame on you, there was no papacy then. A "Clement" is mentioned by Paul and it's likely him since he took over the Church of Rome after Paul died.

You spit on the faces of Christians

 

[Origen]

You spit on the faces of Christians

Are Catholics christians?