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According to talmudic hebrew scholars the canon of the TaNaKh was established at some point between 200 BC and 200 AD.
The "N" in Tanakh stands for the canonical books of the Nevi'im "Prophets" in the time of the prophets.
This all implies that the return of the prophet Elijah and the arrival of the "prophet like unto Moses" should have occured at some point during this 400 year window to seal the canon of the Nevi'im, Elijah IS technically in the Nevi'im section, however if he had returned during no later than 200AD and the canon was established at that point then I'm sure the Jews would have included that in their canon
"Lo, I will send you the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of parents to their children and the hearts of children to their parents, so that I will not come and strike the land with a curse"
-Malachi 4:5-6
Note: Elijah comes BEFORE and not on that great and terrible day of the Lord. But let's move on
Now regarding THE Prophet of the Lord..
Moses states that the Prophet of the Lord will be like unto himself..
"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken"
Deuteronomy 18:15
"The Prophet" is not a label or title used for any current prophet of the time, if the Prophet of the Lord is to be like unto Moses then according to Numbers 12:6-8 he will not be an average prophet whom the Lord speaks to through visions and dreams...
"And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the LORD make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?"
So who is The Prophet of the LORD above all the other prophets? Perhaps its one of the major prophets in the canon, let's first see what the expectations are of the prophet.
In Deuteronomy 34:10-2 we read...
"And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land, And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses showed in the sight of all Israel"
These verses, coming at the end of the Torah, clearly refer back to chapter 18 and were apparently written long after Moses’ death, since verse 6 states that “no one knows the place of his burial to this day”– a phrase that only makes sense if written a long time after Moses had died.
Okay well maybe the New Testament can provide us the answer to who this particular prophet in the old testament was..
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"
John 1:21
"And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?"
John 1:25
"Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world"
John 6:14
"Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet"
John 7:40
Well if these people are correct in believing that Jesus is the prophet then surely the scripture will verify it.
“They took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, ‘A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household" -Matthew 13:57
“Although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet” -Matthew 21:46
They said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people.”
– Luke 24:19
Moses said, “The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you.”
– Acts 3:22
This is the Moses who said to the Israelites, “God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers.”
– Acts 7:37
Well there we have it, a motive for the Jews to cut the Prophet of the Lord from their canon.. because they hearkened NOT to him and thus didn't listen!
This is proof to me that the Jews who rejected Christ are the same ones who cut the Prophet of God from the canon and these are the same ones who provided us with their corrupt canon to replace the uncut bible the Christians used!
Oh btw, almost forgot about Elijah the prophet, here is the angel speaking to Zechariah the father of John regarding his sons mission..
"he shall go before him [the Lord] in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord"
-Luke 1:17
The Jews rejected the return of Elijah and cut him out of canon as well, what a shocker, but what about those other books leading up to the the rejected prophets, that were also cut from the Hebrew canon?
Surely they were no threat.. oh wait what's this?
BOOK OF WISDOM. CHAPTER TWO
(You can skip ahead to verse 10)
1) And this is the false argument they use, ‘Our life is short and dreary, there is no remedy when our end comes, no one is known to have come back from Hades.
2) We came into being by chance and afterwards shall be as though we had never been. The breath in our nostrils is a puff of smoke, reason a spark from the beating of our hearts;
3) extinguish this and the body turns to ashes, and the spirit melts away like the yielding air.
4) In time, our name will be forgotten, nobody will remember what we have done; our life will pass away like wisps of cloud, dissolving like the mist that the sun’s rays drive away and that its heat dispels.
5) For our days are the passing of a shadow, our end is without return, the seal is affixed and nobody comes back.
6) ‘Come then, let us enjoy the good things of today, let us use created things with the zest of youth:
7) take our fill of the dearest wines and perfumes, on no account forgo the flowers of spring
8) but crown ourselves with rosebuds before they wither,
9) no meadow excluded from our orgy; let us leave the signs of our revelry everywhere, since this is our portion, this our lot!
10) ‘As for the upright man who is poor, let us oppress him; let us not spare the widow, nor respect old age, white-haired with many years.
11)Let our might be the yardstick of right, since weakness argues its own futility.
12) Let us lay traps for the upright man, since he annoys us and opposes our way of life, reproaches us for our sins against the Law, and accuses us of sins against our upbringing.
13) He claims to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord.
14) We see him as a reproof to our way of thinking, the very sight of him weighs our spirits down;
15) for his kind of life is not like other people’s, and his ways are quite different.
16) In his opinion we are counterfeit; he avoids our ways as he would filth; he proclaims the final end of the upright as blessed and boasts of having God for his father.
17) Let us see if what he says is true, and test him to see what sort of end he will have.
18) For if the upright man is God’s son, God will help him and rescue him from the clutches of his enemies.
19) Let us test him with cruelty and with torture, and thus explore this gentleness of his and put his patience to the test.
20) Let us condemn him to a shameful death since God will rescue him — or so he claims.’
21) This is the way they reason, but they are misled, since their malice makes them blind.
22) They do not know the hidden things of God, they do not hope for the reward of holiness, they do not believe in a reward for blameless souls.
23) For God created human beings to be immortal, he made them as an image of his own nature;
24) Death came into the world only through the Devil’s envy, as those who belong to him find to their cost.
Wow! So that's considered uninspired???
You have to be kidding me!
Well here is one for the road, my fingers are tired..
Revelation 8:2 confirms Tobit 12:15. John confirmed the fact that there are 7 angels who stand before the Most High God.
The "N" in Tanakh stands for the canonical books of the Nevi'im "Prophets" in the time of the prophets.
This all implies that the return of the prophet Elijah and the arrival of the "prophet like unto Moses" should have occured at some point during this 400 year window to seal the canon of the Nevi'im, Elijah IS technically in the Nevi'im section, however if he had returned during no later than 200AD and the canon was established at that point then I'm sure the Jews would have included that in their canon
"Lo, I will send you the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of parents to their children and the hearts of children to their parents, so that I will not come and strike the land with a curse"
-Malachi 4:5-6
Note: Elijah comes BEFORE and not on that great and terrible day of the Lord. But let's move on
Now regarding THE Prophet of the Lord..
Moses states that the Prophet of the Lord will be like unto himself..
"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken"
Deuteronomy 18:15
"The Prophet" is not a label or title used for any current prophet of the time, if the Prophet of the Lord is to be like unto Moses then according to Numbers 12:6-8 he will not be an average prophet whom the Lord speaks to through visions and dreams...
"And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the LORD make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?"
So who is The Prophet of the LORD above all the other prophets? Perhaps its one of the major prophets in the canon, let's first see what the expectations are of the prophet.
In Deuteronomy 34:10-2 we read...
"And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land, And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses showed in the sight of all Israel"
These verses, coming at the end of the Torah, clearly refer back to chapter 18 and were apparently written long after Moses’ death, since verse 6 states that “no one knows the place of his burial to this day”– a phrase that only makes sense if written a long time after Moses had died.
Okay well maybe the New Testament can provide us the answer to who this particular prophet in the old testament was..
"And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No"
John 1:21
"And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?"
John 1:25
"Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world"
John 6:14
"Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet"
John 7:40
Well if these people are correct in believing that Jesus is the prophet then surely the scripture will verify it.
“They took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, ‘A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household" -Matthew 13:57
“Although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet” -Matthew 21:46
They said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people.”
– Luke 24:19
Moses said, “The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you.”
– Acts 3:22
This is the Moses who said to the Israelites, “God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers.”
– Acts 7:37
Well there we have it, a motive for the Jews to cut the Prophet of the Lord from their canon.. because they hearkened NOT to him and thus didn't listen!
This is proof to me that the Jews who rejected Christ are the same ones who cut the Prophet of God from the canon and these are the same ones who provided us with their corrupt canon to replace the uncut bible the Christians used!
Oh btw, almost forgot about Elijah the prophet, here is the angel speaking to Zechariah the father of John regarding his sons mission..
"he shall go before him [the Lord] in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord"
-Luke 1:17
The Jews rejected the return of Elijah and cut him out of canon as well, what a shocker, but what about those other books leading up to the the rejected prophets, that were also cut from the Hebrew canon?
Surely they were no threat.. oh wait what's this?
BOOK OF WISDOM. CHAPTER TWO
(You can skip ahead to verse 10)
1) And this is the false argument they use, ‘Our life is short and dreary, there is no remedy when our end comes, no one is known to have come back from Hades.
2) We came into being by chance and afterwards shall be as though we had never been. The breath in our nostrils is a puff of smoke, reason a spark from the beating of our hearts;
3) extinguish this and the body turns to ashes, and the spirit melts away like the yielding air.
4) In time, our name will be forgotten, nobody will remember what we have done; our life will pass away like wisps of cloud, dissolving like the mist that the sun’s rays drive away and that its heat dispels.
5) For our days are the passing of a shadow, our end is without return, the seal is affixed and nobody comes back.
6) ‘Come then, let us enjoy the good things of today, let us use created things with the zest of youth:
7) take our fill of the dearest wines and perfumes, on no account forgo the flowers of spring
8) but crown ourselves with rosebuds before they wither,
9) no meadow excluded from our orgy; let us leave the signs of our revelry everywhere, since this is our portion, this our lot!
10) ‘As for the upright man who is poor, let us oppress him; let us not spare the widow, nor respect old age, white-haired with many years.
11)Let our might be the yardstick of right, since weakness argues its own futility.
12) Let us lay traps for the upright man, since he annoys us and opposes our way of life, reproaches us for our sins against the Law, and accuses us of sins against our upbringing.
13) He claims to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord.
14) We see him as a reproof to our way of thinking, the very sight of him weighs our spirits down;
15) for his kind of life is not like other people’s, and his ways are quite different.
16) In his opinion we are counterfeit; he avoids our ways as he would filth; he proclaims the final end of the upright as blessed and boasts of having God for his father.
17) Let us see if what he says is true, and test him to see what sort of end he will have.
18) For if the upright man is God’s son, God will help him and rescue him from the clutches of his enemies.
19) Let us test him with cruelty and with torture, and thus explore this gentleness of his and put his patience to the test.
20) Let us condemn him to a shameful death since God will rescue him — or so he claims.’
21) This is the way they reason, but they are misled, since their malice makes them blind.
22) They do not know the hidden things of God, they do not hope for the reward of holiness, they do not believe in a reward for blameless souls.
23) For God created human beings to be immortal, he made them as an image of his own nature;
24) Death came into the world only through the Devil’s envy, as those who belong to him find to their cost.
Wow! So that's considered uninspired???
You have to be kidding me!
Well here is one for the road, my fingers are tired..
Revelation 8:2 confirms Tobit 12:15. John confirmed the fact that there are 7 angels who stand before the Most High God.
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